Looks like airline management is looking to start blowing up some of these covid sick protection Loa’s. Can’t blame them. We have as long as it’s declared a pandemic language but there’s definitely a counter argument with the vaccine available. Probably won’t change anyone’s minds at this point but I wouldn’t plan on the covid sick time protection much longer. You’ll have to burn normal sick.

My company is doing that effective July 1. Take the jab, get an extra PTO day. Don't take the jab and get contact-traced to a positive crewmember or passenger, the quarantine time comes out of your sick bank.

Yeah. This is going to produce some interesting Loa’s.

Probably time to start leveraging sick Loa’s into credit for shots before the pandemic is over. PTO works well as it doesn’t go on the books as an expense. Not sure if that’s what Ual and American did?

Vaccine-induced immunity in general works pretty well against the various known strains, especially at preventing severe covid. We have a lot of real-world data on that already.

Natural immunity should be similar, although natural immunity can have inconsisteny potency and duration depending on the individual and the severity of their covid.


Good news but it will take time to gather real-world data and quantify how that actually translates to susceptibility and contagiousness.

But no big surprise, that's how our immune system is supposed to work... not get blindsided by the same bug more than once.

All true but Grumpy's point is well taken. Those that have already had a serious case of Covid and fully recovered from it, like my better half, legitimately question whether they actually need to take a Covid vaccine. And yet, she will somehow be lumped into the "anti-science, anti-vaxxer" camp despite plenty of medical evidence suggesting that she cannot get Covid again nor pass it to anyone else. Something that the vaccinated only group cannot say.

It's going to be like everything else covid, they will take the conservative road until they have some empirical data. Some politicians and bureaucrats will likely drag it out even longer, until the data gets analyzed, peer-reviewed and formally published. At some point they'll have to let it go, kind of like the masks.

My definition of anti-vax is the ones on a religious crusade to insult and mis-inform with blatant falsehoods to make a point for reasons I cannot begin to understand. Nobody should get any grief just for making their own choice, nor should anyone get grief for choosing who they associate with or employ.

Either PBS or BBC news, which ever my wife watches, recently reported CDC is starting to float the idea of including the infected into herd immunity numbers, and some members of congress are beginning to push CDC for clarification on the subject.

My personal opinion is they already know the answer, but don’t want publicize it until they’re convinced all who might get the shot get it.

Like Rick said, the government will take the conservative approach until there is better empirical data before they commit to immunity by infection. I’m gonna wait and see what that data says also.

Reading comprehension?!

I had it BEFORE anyone knew what it was, I had just returned from Asia AND my kids lived with me and never caught it. Thanks for riding your high horse. 🙄

Oh and btw, I was on OFF days. Too bad I can't say what I REALLY want to say right now.