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highfarfast 10-10-2020 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by RhinoPherret (Post 3143511)
i ask a question of how wearing a mask, washing your hands, and keeping some physical distance is such a burden and you draw your assumption from that? That is a question. Not a statement, let alone being some kind of not true statement. I use my personal example of not dinning inside bars and restaurants to cope with restrictions. I did not make a statement that others had or should do that. You are still grasping.
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It sure came off to me that you were indicating that others should do as you do, which as you said, includes no restaurants and bars at all. That’s why I bolded that part, including the part about “Is it that much of a burden?”. Perhaps reread what you posted? Anyway, I wear a mask, wash my hands, and keep a physical distance in public as much as I can as well. Unlike you though, beyond that, I’m not doing a whole lot of things differently than pre-COVID. That said, I’ve never spent a lot of time in restaurants and bars anyway (we like to cook, we drink at home, and I’ve always brought my own food on trips). But we still do go out from time to time, just as pre-COVID, and I have no problem with those that do so frequently.

RhinoPherret 10-10-2020 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by Flyfalcons (Post 3143484)
You can think whatever you like, but facts don't care about your feelings. And the facts are, the reason for restrictions on individuals and business has long since been achieved. Yet, restrictions remain in place indefinitely. To what end are the restrictions remaining in place? No one knows, because the goal posts keep getting moved further back. Sorry if that bothers your feelings, but like I said, these are facts.

Very vague statement. Please specify what facts have led you to the conclusion that the reasons for restrictions on individuals and businesses has long since been achieved.
instead of using a vague term of “goal posts,” what is it that is actually getting moved further back? I am not saying you are wrong or right. However, I would like to see some specifics.

RhinoPherret 10-10-2020 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3143518)
It sure came off to me that you were indicating that others should do as you do, which as you said, includes no restaurants and bars at all. That’s why I bolded that part, including the part about “Is it that much of a burden?”. Perhaps reread what you posted? Anyway, I wear a mask, wash my hands, and keep a physical distance in public as much as I can as well. Unlike you though, beyond that, I’m not doing a whole lot of things differently than pre-COVID. That said, I’ve never spent a lot of time in restaurants and bars anyway (we like to cook, we drink at home, and I’ve always brought my own food on trips). But we still do go out from time to time, just as pre-COVID, and I have no problem with those that do so frequently.

I have no problem with what you do. Sounds like you do care and are doing the right things. Kudos to you.
I do look forward to the day when masks don’t have to be worn etc., etc. It will come. Not as fast as some people wan’t but it will get here.

Cheers!

highfarfast 10-10-2020 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by RhinoPherret (Post 3143522)
I have no problem with what you do. Sounds like you do care and are doing the right things. Kudos to you.
I do look forward to the day when masks don’t have to be worn etc., etc. It will come. Not as fast as some people wan’t but it will get here.

Cheers!

Now, if can just get the wife to accept that Disney World can wait until masks aren’t needed...

She REALLY wants a vacation! lol

RhinoPherret 10-10-2020 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3143526)
Now, if can just get the wife to accept that Disney World can wait until masks aren’t needed...

She REALLY wants a vacation! lol

lol. I hear ya. Good luck with convincing the boss otherwise. :)

Flyfalcons 10-11-2020 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by RhinoPherret (Post 3143519)
Very vague statement. Please specify what facts have led you to the conclusion that the reasons for restrictions on individuals and businesses has long since been achieved.
instead of using a vague term of “goal posts,” what is it that is actually getting moved further back? I am not saying you are wrong or right. However, I would like to see some specifics.

The reason was to ensure hospital capacity. You know this but choose to be obtuse. Just like everyone else who is still going along with this nonsense.

Even the World Health Organization is saying enough of the lockdowns, they do more harm than good.

RhinoPherret 10-11-2020 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Flyfalcons (Post 3143633)
The reason was to ensure hospital capacity. You know this but choose to be obtuse. Just like everyone else who is still going along with this nonsense.

Even the World Health Organization is saying enough of the lockdowns, they do more harm than good.

I am not in favor of lockdowns. I am referring to the wearing of masks, washing your hands, and keeping some distance when possible to help mitage the virus spread to others (especially those with health issues that compromise thier immuine systems). I see no nonsense in that. Do you think those specific actions should be ended now?
You seem to try to paint folks with a wide brush if they do not share your opinions.

Flyfalcons 10-11-2020 08:57 AM

Any restriction on business and free movement follows the ideals of a lockdown. Wear your mask or not, I don't care.

RhinoPherret 10-11-2020 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Flyfalcons (Post 3143674)
Any restriction on business and free movement follows the ideals of a lockdown. Wear your mask or not, I don't care.

Ok. I will wear my mask as needed. Take care.

Intrdmnslalien 10-11-2020 02:01 PM

'Dr David Nabarro from the WHO appealed to world leaders yesterday, telling them to stop "using lockdowns as your primary control method" of the coronavirus.

He also claimed that the only thing lockdowns achieved was poverty – with no mention of the potential lives saved.

"Lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer," he said.

"The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we'd rather not do it."


Dr Nabarro's main criticism of lockdowns involved the global impact, explaining how poorer economies that had been indirectly affected.

"Just look at what's happened to the tourism industry in the Caribbean, for example, or in the Pacific because people aren't taking their holidays," he said.

"Look what's happened to smallholder farmers all over the world. … Look what's happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition."

They created a petition, called the Great Barrington Declaration, which said that lockdowns were doing "irreparable damage."'
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/cov...LCITIMKOYXLRU/


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