Mutations Not Enhancing COVID Spread
01-30-2021, 08:42 AM
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN29Z0I7
Novavax and J&J vaccines are less effective against some new strains.
mRNA vaccines still appear to work fine, but pfizer CEO says that will likely change eventually.
Good news: all four vaccines still have enough efficacy to impact R0, and they still prevent the vast majority of severe covid.
Novavax and J&J vaccines are less effective against some new strains.
mRNA vaccines still appear to work fine, but pfizer CEO says that will likely change eventually.
Good news: all four vaccines still have enough efficacy to impact R0, and they still prevent the vast majority of severe covid.
01-30-2021, 09:05 AM
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J&J 100% effective against hospitalization and death. That wasn't really clear when they initially reported 89% efficicay against "severe covid"... guess you can have severe covid and stay at home. This is good, since it was tested in mutation zones.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...venting-deaths
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...venting-deaths
01-30-2021, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN29Z0I7
Novavax and J&J vaccines are less effective against some new strains.
mRNA vaccines still appear to work fine, but pfizer CEO says that will likely change eventually.
Good news: all four vaccines still have enough efficacy to impact R0, and they still prevent the vast majority of severe covid.
Novavax and J&J vaccines are less effective against some new strains.
mRNA vaccines still appear to work fine, but pfizer CEO says that will likely change eventually.
Good news: all four vaccines still have enough efficacy to impact R0, and they still prevent the vast majority of severe covid.
The new findings, however, raise questions about how highly-effective vaccines from Pfizer Inc with partner BioNTech, and Moderna Inc will fare against new variants. The two vaccines showed an efficacy of around 95% in trials conducted primarily in the United States before the new virus versions were identified in other countries.
“It’s a different pandemic now,” said Dr. Dan Barouch, a researcher at Harvard University Medical School’s Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston who helped develop the J&J vaccine.
“It’s a different pandemic now,” said Dr. Dan Barouch, a researcher at Harvard University Medical School’s Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston who helped develop the J&J vaccine.
01-30-2021, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
We must have read different articles if your takeaway from it is that Novax/JJ are less effective against new variants and Pfizer/Moderna work fine. I don’t see anything stating that the mRNA “work fine.” Clearly they don’t have numbers on it. And it is almost a certainty they don’t work as well as they did against the original strains of the virus.
The observed behavior of the mRNA in the lab shows that the immune response is reduced but still plenty high enough to maintain efficacy. That will of course need to be verified in the real world, which they are working on.
01-30-2021, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
This one is not going to end for another few years.
01-31-2021, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
I will lay you a side wager it will, for all intense and purposes (there are still pockets of polio and Ebola, but nobody in the first wold, or for that matter most of the developing and third world, worries about them) it will be wiped out sooner than you say.
01-31-2021, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
We must have read different articles if your takeaway from it is that Novax/JJ are less effective against new variants and Pfizer/Moderna work fine. I don’t see anything stating that the mRNA “work fine.” Clearly they don’t have numbers on it. And it is almost a certainty they don’t work as well as they did against the original strains of the virus.
Normal flu vaccine has the same issues and the goal isn't eradication but rather the general control, reduction of deadly cases and less severity for those who get the virus.
All this talk is nothing more than hype by the media and really is irresponsible.
Now the researchers and viral experts make a living by working on this stuff. So what doe anyone expect for them to say; there will always be another virus, mutation and so on. They are responsible for the ongoing task of developing a proper vaccine to lessen the effects. ITS WHAT THEY DO! By the way they should be thanked for their service, but put in charge of governing and determining policy? NEVER again!
01-31-2021, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Regularguy
Why is it the debate over the effectiveness of the vaccine against mutations has become so centered in the media?
Normal flu vaccine has the same issues and the goal isn't eradication but rather the general control, reduction of deadly cases and less severity for those who get the virus.
All this talk is nothing more than hype by the media and really is irresponsible.
Now the researchers and viral experts make a living by working on this stuff. So what doe anyone expect for them to say; there will always be another virus, mutation and so on. They are responsible for the ongoing task of developing a proper vaccine to lessen the effects. ITS WHAT THEY DO! By the way they should be thanked for their service, but put in charge of governing and determining policy? NEVER again!
Normal flu vaccine has the same issues and the goal isn't eradication but rather the general control, reduction of deadly cases and less severity for those who get the virus.
All this talk is nothing more than hype by the media and really is irresponsible.
Now the researchers and viral experts make a living by working on this stuff. So what doe anyone expect for them to say; there will always be another virus, mutation and so on. They are responsible for the ongoing task of developing a proper vaccine to lessen the effects. ITS WHAT THEY DO! By the way they should be thanked for their service, but put in charge of governing and determining policy? NEVER again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9S28_5AqUA
03-10-2021, 06:58 AM
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UK variant reported to be both more contagious and more dangerous...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2B213E
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2B213E
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