Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 3165303)
History will show lockdowns, and masks were the absolute wrong approach to this pandemic. The notion that Covid only spreads by respiratory droplets is devastatingly wrong.
That doesn't mean it DOESN'T spread by contact, I'm sure it does. But I think ever since March that's been negligible... it's really, really easy to avoid surface spread and even the most ardent covid deniers are probably second-nature about washing/sanitizing hands and watching what they touch. Surface transmission isn't what caused the economic troubles. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3165308)
I don't think it's devastatingly wrong. Covid does appear to spread more readily via airborne than most other common bugs.
That doesn't mean it DOESN'T spread by contact, I'm sure it does. But I think ever since March that's been negligible... it's really, really easy to avoid surface spread and even the most ardent covid deniers are probably second-nature about washing/sanitizing hands and watching what they touch. Surface transmission isn't what caused the economic troubles. |
Originally Posted by skywatch
(Post 3165296)
Name an illness that does not have long term health effects. Don't most?
Here's a fun game. Name another disease that we can "defeat" by all working together - heart disease? We could all work together to force people to exercise and close all the ice cream stores - should we do that too? How is it a political issue if I want to see businesses survive, kids properly educated, and sensible decisions made by leaders not based on ridiculous statistics quoted with no context given ever? |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 3165312)
The CDC recommendation is based off Covid being transmitted only by droplets. That's where guidance on wearing masks comes from.
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 3165312)
However, Covid is a contact virus that can also be mechanically aerosol-ed, this is an absolute fact, as Covid has been successfully cultured out of the air recently.
Not plausible that virus particles laying around on the ground are getting stirred up and causing any significant infection. Physics says otherwise, virus particles will be trapped in liquid which has surface tension... which is amazingly strong on the micro scale. |
Originally Posted by BoldPilot
(Post 3165316)
Heart Disease isn’t contagious. This is a pandemic, the virus spreads from person to person. Nobody wants businesses to fail, but in the end human life should be more valuable than a business. Just like any natural disaster there’s going to be winners and losers. Those that adapt will survive. Your kids can still get educated through online courses. We’re lucky technology has advanced enough to make that possible. What angers me, is when political leaders call this a “hoax” or that “it’s just the flu” when the entire world is in this fight, but Americans seem to think their politics come first.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 3165303)
The long term effects almost always are a result of poor treatment. We wait until a person is basically going to die before we treat Covid. I'm sure the flu would have a much higher death toll if doctors shunned patients like they do with covid.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 3165303)
The long term effects almost always are a result of poor treatment. We wait until a person is basically going to die before we treat Covid. I'm sure the flu would have a much higher death toll if doctors shunned patients like they do with covid.
History will show lockdowns, and masks were the absolute wrong approach to this pandemic. The notion that Covid only spreads by respiratory droplets is devastatingly wrong. |
Originally Posted by skywatch
(Post 3165296)
Name an illness that does not have long term health effects. Don't most?
Here's a fun game. Name another disease that we can "defeat" by all working together - heart disease? We could all work together to force people to exercise and close all the ice cream stores - should we do that too? How is it a political issue if I want to see businesses survive, kids properly educated, and sensible decisions made by leaders not based on ridiculous statistics quoted with no context given ever? |
Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
(Post 3165319)
At some point, which has long passed, the "cure" is worse than the disease. Tens of millions out of work and going into poverty is a bigger national tragedy than a disease that barely affects the working age population.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3165318)
Mechanically aerosoled how? The only plausible path is out of the nose or mouth, which masks should help with.
Not plausible that virus particles laying around on the ground are getting stirred up and causing any significant infection. Physics says otherwise, virus particles will be trapped in liquid which has surface tension... which is amazingly strong on the micro scale. Mask usage in the US is at a high enough rate, that if droplet transmission played the primary role in this pandemic, the virus would have a significantly lower R0 value. |
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