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Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3166629)

I'm not saying the deaths (however many) don't bother me or shouldn't be prevented. I think they should use voluntary means to get the cooperation they need at this point. Basically the CFR on this (whatever it actually is) is no way sufficient to justify involuntary mass shutdown of society... If we had some kind of hemorrhagic fever outbreak with a 50% CFR, well OK then.

I think the cost vs. benefit is too high, both human health due to economic fallout and also degradation of fundamental liberty. I think that's where we disagree.

You know what's funny, is that your "doomsday" scenario would actually be less catastrophic than COVID-19. How is that, you say? Well the fact that an extremely fatal virus has less chance and less time to spread. And 'hemorrhagic fever' would be a very visible and debilitating symptom, which incapacitates hosts and makes them easy to avoid. MERS was extremely fatal. And it was easily contained.

COVID-19 is sort of a 'Goldilocks' of viruses. It flies under the radar for the majority of people. It has a long enough incubation and asymptomatic phase to be extremely contagious. And it severely impacts 1 in 20. But 5% hospitalized of 300 million is a crisis. 0.5% dead of 300 million is a catastrophe.

You've been off from the start regarding COVID. I'm not expecting much evolution from this forum. And those who might have changed their minds on COVID simply stopped posting a while ago. My only consolation is that policy isn't determined by the 'top minds' of Airline Pilot Central.

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3166626)

point being was if that he obviously doesn't buy into the masks and lockdowns but at least he leads by example, even if you don't like his example.

The problem with your argument is the people working directly for potus, executing HIS policy - CDC director, Surgeon Gen, etc. – say one thing while potus does opposite. The whole thing has been beyond F’d from the start.

Anyway, whatever, president is totally checked out now. I’m just hoping Pence and the rest of the task force are still focused on the last critical piece of this thing….logistics.

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Originally Posted by GateAgent007 (Post 3166827)

Layoff the insults, this is why it always goes off the rail because you can't have a civil discussion.

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3166626)

Don't get triggered by speech about potus that's slighty non-negative.

It wasn't praise, you won't hear that from me, if I am partisan that's not my flavor. The topic was hypocrisy, point being was if that he obviously doesn't buy into the masks and lockdowns but at least he leads by example, even if you don't like his example.

The wrong example? How does that help anything? Hitler led by example too.

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Originally Posted by GateAgent007 (Post 3166827)

I'm not expecting much evolution from this forum. And those who might have changed their minds on COVID simply stopped posting a while ago. My only consolation is that policy isn't determined by the 'top minds' of Airline Pilot Central.

Reality has finally started to set in. Only 8 months later.

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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1 (Post 3166902)

The wrong example? How does that help anything? Hitler led by example too.

If you google top leaders in all of history, he'll be on the list, as will Lenin.

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3166927)

If you google top leaders in all of history, he'll be on the list, as will Lenin.

That sounds a little partisan. I guess we will see. He will be somewhere on it... The handling of the pandemic will be hard to overcome though so he might be below Lenin

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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1 (Post 3166947)

That sounds a little partisan. I guess we will see. He will be somewhere on it... The handling of the pandemic will be hard to overcome though so he might be below Lenin

Partisan? I was talking about Hitler. In the spirit of partisan neutrality I mentioned a left-wing monster too.

Point being leadership is an art and science (whatever purpose you apply it to), and too many of them are failing at one of the fundamentals right now which erodes public confidence when we really need it. I like Fauci, but I sure wish he hadn't lied "misled" us about the masks early on.

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3166954)

I don't think Fauci misled on masks, everything he says here is correct to his decades of opinions.

Above disinformation video was from March when the CDC was not recommending masks for the general public. This all changed in April when new research of the virus emerged.