Will you get the vaccine?
Straightforward question, no chance for grammatical error.
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NO!!! Of course, life might be very “restricted” without it.
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Yes. Whenever it is available to me.
Not because I'm afraid of the clinical implications should I be infected with with SARS-CoV-2 (I'm not), but rather 1. don't want to spread it to my parents/in-laws or anybody else, 2. I believe in the science behind and safety of the mRNA vaccines, and 3. its the fastest way to bring an end to Operation Enduring Clusterfoxtrot here and around the world. |
Yes.
I see it as a moral responsibility to protect others. It's bigger than just me. I'm young and healthy. Im not nervous about getting sick myself, but my folks aren't. I don't want to be responsible for getting them sick when I could get the vaccine and protect others from myself. If you aren't afraid of the virus, you shouldn't be afraid of the vaccine. I constantly hear people talk about 99+% survival rates. Well guess what? The vaccine has a 99+% survival rate too! |
I thought you could still spread the disease even with the vaccine, doesn’t the vaccine just protect you from actually becoming ill?
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Originally Posted by flysnoopy76
(Post 3181374)
I thought you could still spread the disease even with the vaccine, doesn’t the vaccine just protect you from actually becoming ill?
My personal opinion is the vaccine, just like all the vaccines, make your immune response more robust and your body deals with it faster. I'm sure it's technically possible although much less likely to spread it after the vaccine. But just like everything we have seen, they want to scare you into compliance. |
Originally Posted by flysnoopy76
(Post 3181374)
I thought you could still spread the disease even with the vaccine, doesn’t the vaccine just protect you from actually becoming ill?
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Originally Posted by flysnoopy76
(Post 3181374)
I thought you could still spread the disease even with the vaccine, doesn’t the vaccine just protect you from actually becoming ill?
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Absolutely. As others have pointed out, there is a moral responsibility to ending the pandemic. I know people argue that there isn't currently any documentation that the vaccine will keep you from spreading covid to others. I argue that, on the other side of the coin, there isn't any documentation that it doesn't either. So far, the belief amongst medical experts seems to be that, even if you can still spread it, it is to a lesser extent with the vaccine.. putting others around you at far less risk. This belief stems from the fact that the virus is hanging out in your nasal mucus. While the vaccine will keep it from replicating inside your body, it may not be able to hit the small amount still sitting in your nose. But, if it isn't replicating inside your body, you are spreading a far smaller viral load than someone without the vaccine. This puts someone else at a far smaller risk of developing a serious case, if they even became symptomatic at all. I guess it's like spraying someone with a squirt gun vs a fire hose. They're still going to get a little wet, but not soaked to the bone.
Also, as a healthy person in their mid-30s, I'm not particularly worried about being wiped off the earth by covid. However, I've talked to enough people who have had covid that still get winded going up a flight of stairs a couple months after recovery. The lingering, and possibly long term effects are concerning. What may be a mild inconvenience for most people could be career ending for a pilot. I feel that any possible long term effects of covid far outweigh any from a vaccine. |
Nope. I have zero faith in big pharma, based on their track record of absolutely awful lies and deceit. Greed is in the driver’s seat. I also don’t believe this virus started by accident. I think this very well may be a case of the people who created the problem, selling the cure. Also something big pharma has been responsible for in the past. Call me a conspiracy theorist all you want, you won’t change my mind. There is too much evidence that is stacked against them.
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If the worry is others getting sick, then wouldn’t the best protection be they get the vaccine?
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3181365)
Yes.
I see it as a moral responsibility to protect others. It's bigger than just me. I'm young and healthy. Im not nervous about getting sick myself, but my folks aren't. I don't want to be responsible for getting them sick when I could get the vaccine and protect others from myself. If you aren't afraid of the virus, you shouldn't be afraid of the vaccine. I constantly hear people talk about 99+% survival rates. Well guess what? The vaccine has a 99+% survival rate too! |
Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
(Post 3181385)
If the worry is others getting sick, then wouldn’t the best protection be they get the vaccine?
THIS. The biggest disgrace happening in modern times is that I am somehow responsible for YOUR safety or health. Sorry, your fat immunocompromised cheeseburger eating a$$ is not my concern. Why should I jeopardize my health for your safety? No thanks. No vax for me. I’m naturally immune from the virus. |
Nah. Not until it's required by law or for employment purposes. Anyone who trusts big pharma on a rush job probably hasn't been on the planet long enough to know better.
I'll "believe in the science" of mRNA vaccines after a double-blind 10 year longitudinal study is completed on actual humans. Not before. There's no "moral obligation" for this; OLD PEOPLE GET THE VACCINE FIRST. They'll be immune long before any of us get the vaccine. There's a term for this kind of posturing... it's called "cheap grace". Young people do fine, and kids are statistically speaking, unaffected. I'm totally fine if anyone wants to take their chances with the 'rona. My body, my choice and all. |
Originally Posted by trip
(Post 3181390)
SMH, you should read up and understand this vaccine before you make such statements.
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK
(Post 3181396)
You may want to do the same. There’s a lot of articles and interviews out there with medical personnel explaining how vaccines work and why pfizer and moderna saying the CYA statement of “We don’t know yet” doesn’t equal “it doesn’t”.
I will only get the Moderna vaccine though. I know they have special equipment to monitor temperature during shipping, but if the Pfizer vaccine thawed out during shipping, and I get a bad dose, I can’t go back and get the Moderna one after that. The second dose would give me some protection, but not the same protection 2 good doses would have. The idea that big pharma caused this virus, all in the name of profits, would be impressive if true. If they did, why didn’t they have the vaccine ready to go 10 months ago though? They didn’t have to wait for millions to die before bringing the vaccine to market. They lost Millions of potential customers. And if China created this virus as a bio weapon, you’d think they would have had a vaccine ready, at least for their people, before releasing it on the world. |
Originally Posted by Xtreme87
(Post 3181392)
THIS. The biggest disgrace happening in modern times is that I am somehow responsible for YOUR safety or health. Sorry, your fat immunocompromised cheeseburger eating a$$ is not my concern. Why should I jeopardize my health for your safety? No thanks. No vax for me. I’m naturally immune from the virus.
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Originally Posted by trip
(Post 3181390)
SMH, you should read up and understand this vaccine before you make such statements.
I've read a ton about it. |
Already got it. Researched it, know plenty of people in medicine, some actually involved in the Pfizer trials and far and away all support it. I’m healthy, one of my main concerns w\ COVID was the clotting issues arising afterwards. Especially as pilots we should be concerned with this.
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
(Post 3181431)
I almost had the chance to get the vaccine last night. My sister is a Pharmacist. They were scheduled to vaccinate a nursing home yesterday, but for whatever reason, that didn’t happen so they had 50 or so doses that needed to be used because they had already been taken out of the refrigerator so she called me and asked if I wanted one. By the time I got back o her, the sign up sheet had been filled so no vaccine for me. I’m not worried about the vaccine. If that’s the price of admission to the rest of my life, so be it.
I will only get the Moderna vaccine though. I know they have special equipment to monitor temperature during shipping, but if the Pfizer vaccine thawed out during shipping, and I get a bad dose, I can’t go back and get the Moderna one after that. The second dose would give me some protection, but not the same protection 2 good doses would have. The idea that big pharma caused this virus, all in the name of profits, would be impressive if true. If they did, why didn’t they have the vaccine ready to go 10 months ago though? They didn’t have to wait for millions to die before bringing the vaccine to market. They lost Millions of potential customers. And if China created this virus as a bio weapon, you’d think they would have had a vaccine ready, at least for their people, before releasing it on the world. |
Originally Posted by hoover
(Post 3181437)
not trying to start anything but how are you naturally immune?
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
(Post 3181462)
. I know that’s a hard concept for most to grasp.
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Already got it. So far no third arm or glowing urine. Think I’ll be just fine. I just want to live in a world where I can once again smell the sweet Austrian Oak burning in fireplaces while I stroll freely to my schnitzel spot.
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
(Post 3181462)
I’ve been exposed to it multiple times for prolonged durations and never got it (Nursing home and doctors office). Not to mention I’ve traveled and worked a lot. Also, I eat well and take care of myself, so your body tends to be able to fight things off naturally without the need for chemicals. I know that’s a hard concept for most to grasp.
If I were vulnerable I would definitely get the vaccine and be protected, but I would not demand others do the same for my safety. |
Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3181365)
Yes.
I see it as a moral responsibility to protect others. It's bigger than just me. I'm young and healthy. Im not nervous about getting sick myself, but my folks aren't. I don't want to be responsible for getting them sick when I could get the vaccine and protect others from myself. If you aren't afraid of the virus, you shouldn't be afraid of the vaccine. I constantly hear people talk about 99+% survival rates. Well guess what? The vaccine has a 99+% survival rate too! |
Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
(Post 3181479)
Maybe you also have O-type blood which they say can help. We got it in our household, three of us tested positive, thankfully with mild symptoms, and two negative. We didn’t isolate from each other because by the time we see suspected anything it was already more than a week. You just can’t tell how this thing moves.
If I were vulnerable I would definitely get the vaccine and be protected, but I would not demand others do the same for my safety. |
Originally Posted by SSlow
(Post 3181483)
I'm not trying to knock you off of your soapbox, but with you being young and healthy you'll be the one of the last ones to be offered the vaccine. And by then I would hope that everyone who is NOT low risk will have already had the vaccine and therefore you won't be much of a danger to anyone at that point. I think the whole point of offering the vaccine to the young and healthy is to get us closer to herd immunity.
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I'll get it, but I'll be in the back of the line. I'd like to see how others respond to it first.
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Don’t force your abort I mean vaccine views on my body!!
This vaccine rush is like Windows 10. I think I’ll wait a little to see what happens. |
Originally Posted by SSlow
(Post 3181483)
with you being young and healthy you'll be the one of the last ones to be offered the vaccine.
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
(Post 3181462)
I’ve been exposed to it multiple times for prolonged durations and never got it (Nursing home and doctors office). Not to mention I’ve traveled and worked a lot. Also, I eat well and take care of myself, so your body tends to be able to fight things off naturally without the need for chemicals. I know that’s a hard concept for most to grasp.
What was the trick? Licking old ladies in nursing homes? Lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Xtreme87
(Post 3181462)
. I know that’s a hard concept for most to grasp.
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Originally Posted by point432
(Post 3181529)
What was the trick? Licking old ladies in nursing homes? Lol
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Its like Boogie nights. :D |
Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
(Post 3181561)
You know how much thunderstickin goes on in those communities?!
Its like Boogie nights. :D Ha yeah! Surprised he didn’t get more than the cure for covid coming out of there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Not until we have a lot more data.
Flu vaccine has almost killed me 3x. I had very bad reactions to a rushed into production Anthrax vaccine, and I will have health issues the rest of my life because of those reactions. No thanks. Had Covid. It was a mild cold. And I'm in my 40s with a fair amount of medical issues. |
Got shot one 3 weeks ago on account of my side hustle. It was uneventful.
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Originally Posted by CX500T
(Post 3181565)
Not until we have a lot more data.
Flu vaccine has almost killed me 3x. I had very bad reactions to a rushed into production Anthrax vaccine, and I will have health issues the rest of my life because of those reactions. No thanks. Had Covid. It was a mild cold. And I'm in my 40s with a fair amount of medical issues. That said, one of my wife s colleagues had an allergic reaction (and she has a history). They gave her a small dose of Benadryl and then she was fine. If allergies are an issue, I suggest getting the vaccine at a hospital and hanging out there afterward for a good while. |
Originally Posted by highfarfast
(Post 3181574)
Honestly, personal history of problems with vaccines is a good reason to sit it out, at least for a while.
That said, one of my wife s colleagues had an allergic reaction (and she has a history). They gave her a small dose of Benadryl and then she was fine. If allergies are an issue, I suggest getting the vaccine at a hospital and hanging out there afterward for a good while. Both my wife and I were required to wait around for 15 minutes after. |
No thanks. I don’t see a need to receive a vaccine that has a 90% efficacy rate for a virus with an over 99% survival rate for those under the age of 70. Until there is more data over time regarding possible long term effects of the vaccine, I’m gonna pass. But thats my personal choice. Besides, already had COVID and only symptoms were fatigue and loss of appetite.
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Originally Posted by Eagle06
(Post 3181578)
Both my wife and I were required to wait around for 15 minutes after.
I personally dont have a history so I will be taking first option, wherever that is. |
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