Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
(Post 3294685)
Go back and read some Trump transcripts - you'll feel better about Biden's speeches.
“I see disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that. So you’re going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s pretty powerful.” |
Originally Posted by beetlehog
(Post 3294825)
"feel better about Biden's speeches"? Is that a serious comment? How can you stay this high and fly an airplane? I guess if that makes you feel better about your vote than go ahead and keep telling yourself that Biden has a fully functioning brain and not impacted at all by dementia. As far as Trump saying something stupid, he certainly did do that a lot but he actually did press conferences and campaigned and did interviews with people who absolutely hated him. Biden doesn't do ANY of that. The media protects him during his campaign and still to this day as much as they can anyway. After Afghanistan, they had no choice but to report on what a disaster it was. Sad that you use that example to prop up this cheating, brain dead, reprobate we unfortunately have to call President.
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
(Post 3295020)
I'll just agree to disagree. Given two horrific options, I chose demented and well-intentioned over criminal. Everyone who voted chose a poor path for this country. By the way, are those tax returns still under audit?
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Originally Posted by beetlehog
(Post 3295080)
Well intentioned??? I guess we do disagree. It seems there are 2 categories of ACTUAL Biden voters. There are the hard core ideologues who always vote D and the people in the middle who vote either party. Seems you are in the later category and hopefully you will soon see what a disaster this guy is. Probably wouldn't have mattered either way though. As soon as they threw the R's out of the counting rooms we all knew the jig was up and within 3 days Biden was the most popular President of all time. 81 million votes they tell us with many swing state counties with near or over 100 % voter turnout. That is truly amazing for a guy who didn't campaign. I wonder why his poll numbers are so, so bad in just 6 months? Could it be that he has no base? We all know they cheated and many, many Americans have zero respect for this reprobate. I guess you are ok with a demented but well intentioned President who is the definition of Manchurian. This guy has no clue where the hell he is at. He took a photo with a bunch of kids the other day and most of them had Trump gear. I guess he cannot stay away from sniffing little kids. But you keep on thinking he is well intentioned. It is quite shocking that you can make that statement.
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Originally Posted by Red Forman
(Post 3294731)
Most are actually getting it through a physician.
""Of the calls, 75% were from people who bought ivermectin from a feed store or farm supply store and treated themselves with the animal product," Webb said. The other 25% were people who had a prescription, she added. " https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...ontrol-centers |
Originally Posted by Tfork
(Post 3295236)
Of course, no source for that info. I've read it's 75% from feed stores or farm supply store:
""Of the calls, 75% were from people who bought ivermectin from a feed store or farm supply store and treated themselves with the animal product," Webb said. The other 25% were people who had a prescription, she added. " https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...ontrol-centers Look, when I want to hear the latest transgressions against anything LGBTQ+, hone my “uptalk” skills, or revel in “vocal fry”, I dial in NPR as much as the next non cis gender being. I say that with no malice, or sarcasm. Want right wing crazy? Fox News. Russia paranoia? MSNBC. Everything and how it relates to LGBTQ+? NPR. They’re all parodies of their worst critics. Have been for years. |
Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
(Post 3295277)
Is this the same NPR that ran a story recently that said a man with a heat attack died because he was denied treatment at 40+ hospitals because they were full of COVID patients? Because I can tell you right now, that never happened. It’s prima facia ridiculous.
It’s not quite the same story as they originally portrayed… |
Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
(Post 3294770)
You went to college, correct? That's an honest question because the things you say make it sound like you've never been to a library at a University.
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Originally Posted by Tfork
(Post 3295236)
Of course, no source for that info. I've read it's 75% from feed stores or farm supply store:
""Of the calls, 75% were from people who bought ivermectin from a feed store or farm supply store and treated themselves with the animal product," Webb said. The other 25% were people who had a prescription, she added. " https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...ontrol-centers |
Originally Posted by skywatch
(Post 3295336)
what that says is that 75% of the calls to a poison control hotline were from people who bought ivermectin from a feed store and self prescribed. It does not say that 75% of people using ivermectin got it from a feed store. HUGE difference.
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Originally Posted by skywatch
(Post 3295336)
what that says is that 75% of the calls to a poison control hotline were from people who bought ivermectin from a feed store and self prescribed. It does not say that 75% of people using ivermectin got it from a feed store. HUGE difference.
"Of the calls, 75% were from people who bought ivermectin from a feed store or farm supply store and treated themselves with the animal product," Feed store or farm supply. That's what is says. Here we go again. |
Originally Posted by FlinFlon
(Post 3295305)
Don’t be mean to him. You know the University of Phoenix doesn’t have a library.
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Originally Posted by Thedude86
(Post 3295517)
Looks like we have another conspiracy theorist.
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Originally Posted by Tfork
(Post 3295236)
Of course, no source for that info. I've read it's 75% from feed stores or farm supply store:
""Of the calls, 75% were from people who bought ivermectin from a feed store or farm supply store and treated themselves with the animal product," Webb said. The other 25% were people who had a prescription, she added. " https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...ontrol-centers |
Originally Posted by Tfork
(Post 3295437)
The part in quotes was a copy and paste from the article.
"Of the calls, 75% were from people who bought ivermectin from a feed store or farm supply store and treated themselves with the animal product," Feed store or farm supply. That's what is says. Here we go again. |
Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
(Post 3295678)
Does it say that's the total number of people taking it, or the total number who are calling in to poison control?
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Originally Posted by Red Forman
(Post 3295655)
Lol, NPR is your source. My source is people I personally know.
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
(Post 3295561)
republicans are dying fast at an alarming rate…approx 1,300 a day.
23% of severe cases in June were vaccinated. The vaccines were also far more effective in June than they are now so I’m sure those stats are a lot worse. In addition to that, a recent study published by left leaning The Atlantic shows that up to 50% of covid hospitalizations are most likely in the hospital for totally non related issues. They just happened to test positive when admitted and most hospitals only test you if you’re not vaccinated... so I’d say the real numbers are probably closer to 50/50 between Democratic and Republican deaths. The vaccines do work a little bit so luckily for you there’s probably still a decent amount Republicans dying. Maybe 60/40. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...eading/620062/ |
Originally Posted by Skyward
(Post 3295764)
But all of the dems are already brain dead
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Originally Posted by AvNav23
(Post 3292519)
Your cherry-picked nonsense does not mean a thing. All it proves is that somewhere along the way you learned how to use Google. So serious question… When Ivermectin goes down the same debunked path as previous “miracle cures” will you be man enough to come back on here and say that you were completely full of BS or will you crawl back to your conspiracy theory basement? I know which way I’d guess but I’m not as smart as you.
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Originally Posted by Tfork
(Post 3295437)
The part in quotes was a copy and paste from the article.
"Of the calls, 75% were from people who bought ivermectin from a feed store or farm supply store and treated themselves with the animal product," Feed store or farm supply. That's what is says. Here we go again. |
Originally Posted by Tfork
(Post 3295736)
It says it was reported by poison control. I don't know how they would know the total..And it is only for Kentucky...but I don't know why Kentucky would be significantly different than other states.
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Originally Posted by Flydafe
(Post 3295801)
But ivermectin won the Nobel Prize back in 2015 and 2005...carry on
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Originally Posted by skywatch
(Post 3295824)
I’ll try to make it clearer - your quote - “OF THE CALLS”. Meaning NOT 75% of all people in the US who have used Ivermectin, but 75% of the people in the US who have used Ivermectin AND who have called a poison control hotline got it from a feed store. Not everyone who uses ivermectin calls a poison control hotline.
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Originally Posted by Tfork
(Post 3296011)
Yes, that's correct. I don't know if that's a statically valid sample either. However, isn't it better than anecdotal?
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Originally Posted by skywatch
(Post 3296066)
Despite everyone's advice, I'll try one more time - its like saying that because 90% of the people that go to the cardiologist wind up having heart disease, I guess 90% of the population has heart disease. I cannot think of an example to make it any clearer.
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Originally Posted by Tfork
(Post 3296084)
Look, I'm not trying to claim that 75% of those that took Ivermectin got it from feed stores, etc...I was just countering the claim that most people who take Ivermectin were getting from doctors, which was claimed without evidence. Go back a couple of pages and see for yourself. I don't think I ever said 75% of everyone was from feed stores or farm supply.
You literally said “ I've read it's 75% from feed stores or farm supply store”. But it sounds like we agree then that there is zero indication that 75% of the Ivermectin being used is coming from feed stores. |
Originally Posted by skywatch
(Post 3296090)
You literally said “ I've read it's 75% from feed stores or farm supply store”.
But it sounds like we agree then that there is zero indication that 75% of the Ivermectin being used is coming from feed stores. |
Originally Posted by Tfork
(Post 3296114)
I think we almost agree. Yes, 75% from feed stores or farm supply, of those that called into Poison Control. A subset to be sure. So I can agree we have no data that 75% of Ivermectin being used is coming from feed stores, but we also have no indication most people are getting it from doctors, which is what was claimed.
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Originally Posted by skywatch
(Post 3296154)
i cannot believe I am saying this, but I have seen no numbers to date to indicate any % of people getting ivermectin from doctors…absent that, no hard data to say otherwise…so yes - we agree😀!!!
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Originally Posted by AvNav23
(Post 3295945)
For treating COVID that’s amazing! This is a perfect example of you completely missing the point. Keep trying to fit that square peg in the round hole. JFC! 🤦♂️
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Originally Posted by beetlehog
(Post 3295080)
Well intentioned??? I guess we do disagree. It seems there are 2 categories of ACTUAL Biden voters. There are the hard core ideologues who always vote D and the people in the middle who vote either party. Seems you are in the later category and hopefully you will soon see what a disaster this guy is. Probably wouldn't have mattered either way though. As soon as they threw the R's out of the counting rooms we all knew the jig was up and within 3 days Biden was the most popular President of all time. 81 million votes they tell us with many swing state counties with near or over 100 % voter turnout. That is truly amazing for a guy who didn't campaign. I wonder why his poll numbers are so, so bad in just 6 months? Could it be that he has no base? We all know they cheated and many, many Americans have zero respect for this reprobate. I guess you are ok with a demented but well intentioned President who is the definition of Manchurian. This guy has no clue where the hell he is at. He took a photo with a bunch of kids the other day and most of them had Trump gear. I guess he cannot stay away from sniffing little kids. But you keep on thinking he is well intentioned. It is quite shocking that you can make that statement.
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Originally Posted by Flydafe
(Post 3296167)
No silly..it won the awards for it’s various uses to help people overcome illness. This product has been out way before covid.
Even the FDA has said Ivermectin is safe when used as directed. They’ve just said they “need more evidence for use in covid.” So rather than test a completely safe drug that’s already been approved for other uses and has been used millions of times around the world specifically for Covid including in the U.S….. They would rather wait and test a completely new drug. Yea, clearly money is not at play here. Nope. Even though the new drug will most likely be identical to Ivermectin. All the triple maskers and people cheering that others get fired will be taking Pfizermectin before they know it. https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...al-2021-09-01/ No word yet on if it’ll also be safe to use in livestock. My guess is yes. Pfizermectin: The conspiracy theory thats FDA approved. Saddle up partner. |
Originally Posted by Thedude86
(Post 3296255)
Little does he know, he’ll be taking Ivermectin by the end of this year or early next year. It’ll just be called something else. Pfizer’s vaccine works so well that they’re currently testing their own version of a conspiracy theory to supplement it. Merck, who makes Ivermectin, is currently testing a new covid oral drug as well. My guess is that it’ll pretty much be identical to Ivermectin. They’ll just call it something else and charge 20x more for it.
Even the FDA has said Ivermectin is safe when used as directed. They’ve just said they “need more evidence for use in covid.” So rather than test a completely safe drug that’s already been approved for other uses and has been used millions of times around the world specifically for Covid including in the U.S….. They would rather wait and test a completely new drug. Yea, clearly money is not at play here. Nope. Even though the new drug will most likely be identical to Ivermectin. All the triple maskers and people cheering that others get fired will be taking Pfizermectin before they know it. https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...al-2021-09-01/ No word yet on if it’ll also be safe to use in livestock. My guess is yes. Pfizermectin: The conspiracy theory thats FDA approved. Saddle up partner. |
Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
(Post 3296257)
Sure sounds a lot like the hydroxychloroquine arguments of 12 months ago. We'll see.
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Originally Posted by Thedude86
(Post 3296255)
Little does he know, he’ll be taking Ivermectin by the end of this year or early next year. It’ll just be called something else.
…. the new drug will most likely be identical to Ivermectin. All the triple maskers and people cheering that others get fired will be taking Pfizermectin before they know it. Science changes my mind. Not Aunt Sandy on Facebook. |
Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3296287)
If it’s been properly evaluated through clinical trials & proven effective at preventing or treating COVID 19, fine. No one’s saying Ivermectin is unsafe for humans if taken as prescribed, just that it’s a bad idea to take an anti-parasitic on anecdotal evidence that it can prevent viral transmission. What’s being suggested by many is that people use a drug for other than its approved purpose as a replacement for a vaccine that’s been found safe & effective for the same condition. Terrible advice. If it’s found effective through clinical trials, great. But that’s what it would take.
Science changes my mind. Not Aunt Sandy on Facebook. We’ll all be taking the FDA approved version of horse dewormer next year and we’ll be paying a lot more for the exact same thing. Or maybe the government will pick up the tab for the first year or two. Maybe next year, Veterinary Clinics will be overrun with horses who’s owners injected them with the human version of Pfizermectin and have to start turning away dogs and cats coming in to get spayed and neutered. |
1976 Swine Flu Mass Vaccination Injuries
Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3296287)
If it’s been properly evaluated through clinical trials & proven effective at preventing or treating COVID 19, fine. No one’s saying Ivermectin is unsafe for humans if taken as prescribed, just that it’s a bad idea to take an anti-parasitic on anecdotal evidence that it can prevent viral transmission. What’s being suggested by many is that people use a drug for other than its approved purpose as a replacement for a vaccine that’s been found safe & effective for the same condition. Terrible advice. If it’s found effective through clinical trials, great. But that’s what it would take.
Science changes my mind. Not Aunt Sandy on Facebook. Historical Datapoint of reference: 1976 Swine Flu Pandemic Mass vaccinations resulting in massive injuries here in the USAhttps://youtu.be/4bOHYZhL0WQ |
It’s so heartwarming to see this professional exchange of ideas and problem solving that is taking place here. It’s almost like watching opposing troops of chimps on National Geographic.
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 3296338)
It’s so heartwarming to see this professional exchange of ideas and problem solving that is taking place here. It’s almost like watching opposing troops of chimps on National Geographic.
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