Possible New Variant that may defeat vaccine
12-19-2021, 06:12 PM
#231
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Originally Posted by dualinput
Couldn’t find that quote. Isn’t that what we all wanted anyway. Vax if you want. Take the precautions (or not) that you want. And let the chips fall where they may. Sounds like sanity other than the masking on transportation to me
12-19-2021, 06:31 PM
#232
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Originally Posted by kaputt
12-19-2021, 06:48 PM
#233
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Originally Posted by 400000Dead
It doesn't surprise me that Drum struggles with confusing past-tense and future-tense.
I said it's about to blow up. Meaning it hasn't happened yet. You showing me snapshots from last week mean nothing.
Let's revisit those stats in a month, and see how anti-mitigation works out for everyone in the Sunshine State.
I said it's about to blow up. Meaning it hasn't happened yet. You showing me snapshots from last week mean nothing.
Let's revisit those stats in a month, and see how anti-mitigation works out for everyone in the Sunshine State.
Last edited by Drum; 12-19-2021 at 07:21 PM.
12-19-2021, 06:50 PM
#234
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
Apples and oranges comparisons, from state to state and nation to nation. Without highly unethical control group experimentation, I don’t think there’s much to be gleaned.
Other than the obvious. Old, obese, asthmatic, copd, high blood pressure, diabetic…all risk factors. Beyond that?
Population density, housing choices (high density v low density) open windows, Vitamin D levels, self selection bias (old people who retire to FL probably more successful than average for many reasons), public transport, diet…a million things.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens in FL over the next few months.
———-
From the White House gov site, this bold prediction:
“We are intent on not letting Omicron disrupt
work and school for the vaccinated. You've
done the right thing, and we will get through
this.
For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a
winter of severe illness and death for
yourselves, your families, and the hospitals
you may soon overwhelm.“
Other than the obvious. Old, obese, asthmatic, copd, high blood pressure, diabetic…all risk factors. Beyond that?
Population density, housing choices (high density v low density) open windows, Vitamin D levels, self selection bias (old people who retire to FL probably more successful than average for many reasons), public transport, diet…a million things.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens in FL over the next few months.
———-
From the White House gov site, this bold prediction:
“We are intent on not letting Omicron disrupt
work and school for the vaccinated. You've
done the right thing, and we will get through
this.
For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a
winter of severe illness and death for
yourselves, your families, and the hospitals
you may soon overwhelm.“
MSMs and just about everyone else as well
But I agree without a control its pointless and what is a case? Based on an erratic testing platform dubious at best.
12-19-2021, 06:52 PM
#235
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
Have to agree with Drum here. The colder climates, just like last winter will fare worse than warmer states like Florida. Happens with flu also.
it has proven effective since July (when ti was warm all over) Using their metric of cases - we've maintained the lowest case rate in the nation for weeks on end per capita. Its a fact.
12-19-2021, 07:21 PM
#236
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
Apples and oranges comparisons, from state to state and nation to nation. Without highly unethical control group experimentation, I don’t think there’s much to be gleaned.
Other than the obvious. Old, obese, asthmatic, copd, high blood pressure, diabetic…all risk factors. Beyond that?
Population density, housing choices (high density v low density) open windows, Vitamin D levels, self selection bias (old people who retire to FL probably more successful than average for many reasons), public transport, diet…a million things.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens in FL over the next few months.
———-
From the White House gov site, this bold prediction:
“We are intent on not letting Omicron disrupt
work and school for the vaccinated. You've
done the right thing, and we will get through
this.
For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a
winter of severe illness and death for
yourselves, your families, and the hospitals
you may soon overwhelm.“
Other than the obvious. Old, obese, asthmatic, copd, high blood pressure, diabetic…all risk factors. Beyond that?
Population density, housing choices (high density v low density) open windows, Vitamin D levels, self selection bias (old people who retire to FL probably more successful than average for many reasons), public transport, diet…a million things.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens in FL over the next few months.
———-
From the White House gov site, this bold prediction:
“We are intent on not letting Omicron disrupt
work and school for the vaccinated. You've
done the right thing, and we will get through
this.
For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a
winter of severe illness and death for
yourselves, your families, and the hospitals
you may soon overwhelm.“
Rather than bringing a message of hope and being in the spirit of the holiday he is going to throw down threats to roughly half the nation.
Not a winning strategy for a President.
12-19-2021, 08:00 PM
#237
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Originally Posted by Drum
We are 5 days from Christmas, when he makes his speech it will be 3.
Rather than bringing a message of hope and being in the spirit of the holiday he is going to throw down threats to roughly half the nation.
Not a winning strategy for a President.
Rather than bringing a message of hope and being in the spirit of the holiday he is going to throw down threats to roughly half the nation.
Not a winning strategy for a President.
12-20-2021, 03:51 AM
#239
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Originally Posted by block30
Dude he said, "I’m not going to shut down the country. I’m not going to shut down the economy. I’m going to shut down the virus"
He also said he wasn’t going to mandate the jab,he also said he would cancel student loan debt too…politicians gonna politic.
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12-20-2021, 04:55 AM
#240
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Politics are politics… he may be old senile whatever you want else to include, but if they remotely wanted to shut down the country again, they’d really ask for political suicide on top of everything else… This overreaction is going to be a huge egg on their face, just look at South Africa, even CNN this morning had a reporter say “high cases but most hospitals low to empty…we should focus on severity than just cases…”
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