Unless congress gets really stoopid, those leaving under this circumstance will have to repay any upfront bonuses.

I was really taking about the AD commitments for pilots. While not common, at the service academies, you would get a real POS that did something so egregious, but wasn’t a jail-time offense. The services didn’t want them to serve, so they would get a big chicken dinner and have to repay the service for their commitment.

I could envision something similar (- the BCD), calculating the training cost for the remaining years of service to repaid. But even then, there are plenty of people who absent some negative characterization of their discharge, would look at that math and find it in their favor.

Not gonna happen.

Go read the NDAA.

What part of that is not gonna happen? Not going to have to pay back their service so basically they get free UPT - or - not going to get a less than honorable discharge which I realize is foolishly in the NDAA?

They are not having to "repay" anything as someone here was inferring in their post.

Focus, please.

That's not addressed in the NDAA. I have no idea what they'll do of course as that is way in the rear view mirror, but it would be a huge failure of leadership to allow a grift like that to occur.

Yes it is.

Go read it. You are lying here - again.


So is the change in honorable versus LTH for jab mandate stuff.

Got some professional advice; before you stick your foot in your mouth, again. Go do some reading. Take about a month, then come back here. I'd be happy to provide you a professional reading list to assist you.

You’re having a discussion in your head again that only you are having. The NDAA discusses the characterization of a discharge, not the need to pay back bonuses, commitments, etc, Even a PALACE CHASE participant has to pay back funds they received when they don’t fulfill those commitments and that’s a supported program.

Hopefully you’re not giving people advice of any consequence.

Not talking about PALACE CHASE totally different animal.

Don't change the floor.

So here’s an example. A kid finished UPT pre-mandate. Sees a way to curtail his ADSC of 10 years by saying he doesn’t want to get vaccinated. Gets discharged with 5 years remaining on his commitment. Gets hired by Delta and of course, gets jabbed.

A kid doing palace chase doing the exact same thing would have to pay down his obligation if he did not fulfill his commitment. You’d be cool with that? That’s nuts.