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jtbost 12-19-2021 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp (Post 3338318)
You need help.


“The Drum” is all knowing on all things Covid .... or medical in general. I liken him to the all powerful “OZ”. He’s the number one candidate for president of the Leper colony.

Drum 12-19-2021 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by jtbost (Post 3338717)
“The Drum” is all knowing on all things Covid .... or medical in general. I liken him to the all powerful “OZ”. He’s the number one candidate for president of the Leper colony.

Never said I was. However I am well read and educated. I don't limit myself in my research or my readings. I am not afraid to admit that. Neither should anyone else.

By leper colony are you referring to the movie "12 O'Clock High"? Great movie BTW. Might have taught you something about leadership at one point

Its just that things I post here seem to come to fruition. Uncanny.

CX500T 12-19-2021 04:50 PM

Drum is right more than not. None of us have been 100% right on this from day one.

What ****es me off IRL us friends and relatives trying to jam VAX or ELSE!!! down our throats.

In my case, I have an engineering and two science degrees. While I'm not an immunology or even a medical guy (my PhD was in Thermodynamics) I can read scientific literature.

My wife is a non MD with a BS in Bio/Pre Med, a Masters in Kinesiology, and a doctorate in a human performance field. (I am being intentionally vague because some Covid is my religion types tried to doxx her and get her fired once)

We understand scientific literature in our house.

And I get yelled at about "NOT FOLLOWING THE SCIENCE!!!" by my relatives with GEDs who work at WinCo Foods and Kroger.





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DeltaboundRedux 12-19-2021 05:06 PM

A year ago, if any public figure had predicted we’d be pushing things like :

“We must protect the triple vaccinated from the anti-science and irresponsible double vaccinated!!!!”

They would have been laughed out of town. Or at least queried about what, exactly, was the point of such a leaky vaccine issued under an EUA with blanket liability protections for a manufacturer about to pocket billions.

Yet here we are, with one of the 3 recommended “vaccines” slowly being walked back.

Not anti-vax, but the goalpost moving on this has been unreal from the beginning. 2 weeks to slow the spread!!!!

DropTank 12-20-2021 11:31 AM

The number of religious exemptions granted?

https://www.al.com/news/2021/12/us-m...-vaccines.html

400000Dead 12-20-2021 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux (Post 3338768)
A year ago, if any public figure had predicted we’d be pushing things like :

“We must protect the triple vaccinated from the anti-science and irresponsible double vaccinated!!!!”

They would have been laughed out of town. Or at least queried about what, exactly, was the point of such a leaky vaccine issued under an EUA with blanket liability protections for a manufacturer about to pocket billions.

Yet here we are, with one of the 3 recommended “vaccines” slowly being walked back.

Not anti-vax, but the goalpost moving on this has been unreal from the beginning. 2 weeks to slow the spread!!!!

The fact that you have the opportunity to be triple vaccinated, giving you an almost certain chance staying out of the hospital, is a miracle of science.

A year ago we had nothing, and yet you all were still clammorring for a return to normal, damn the fatalities.

So I'd say the discussion topic has improved substantially. Your attitudes have not.

skywatch 12-20-2021 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by 400000Dead (Post 3339167)
The fact that you have the opportunity to be triple vaccinated, giving you an almost certain chance staying out of the hospital, is a miracle of science.

A year ago we had nothing, and yet you all were still clammorring for a return to normal, damn the fatalities.

So I'd say the discussion topic has improved substantially. Your attitudes have not.

Depending on your understanding of statistics, my age group, and my comorbidities, I had an almost certain chance of staying out of the hospital without the vaccines anyway.

and last I checked we are no longer near returned to normal anyway. The next scary variant is here, dontchaknow

400000Dead 12-20-2021 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by skywatch (Post 3339184)
Depending on your understanding of statistics, my age group, and my comorbidities, I had an almost certain chance of staying out of the hospital without the vaccines anyway.

Lots of dead people thought exactly like you did.

Excargodog 12-20-2021 02:18 PM


5 more states challenge Pentagon’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate for Guardsmen

By Meghann Myers
Wednesday, Dec 15
Following Oklahoma’s lead, five additional states are pushing back against the Defense Department’s COVID-19 vaccine policy, putting their objections in a letter addressed to Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin on Tuesday.The governors of Wyoming, Iowa, Alaska, Nebraska and Mississippi all signed onto the letter, asking Austin to lift his bar on unvaccinated Guard troops attending drill weekends or other mandatory training while in a federal, state-controlled status.Dictating circumstances for training, levying punishments for declining vaccination and requiring separation from the National Guard are “beyond your constitutional and statutory authority,” the governors wrote.

“We have received the letter from the five Governors and will respond in due course,” Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said in a statement Wednesday.

The battle between states and DoD over vaccine requirements for National Guardsmen kicked off in Oklahoma. In early November, the head of the Guard there announced that, on the order of Gov. Kevin Stitt, the state would not be enforcing the federal vaccine mandate for troops in a state-controlled status.The letter sent Tuesday takes a different tack from Stitt, who originally requested that Austin suspend the mandate for Guardsmen, then ordered his adjutant general to not enforce the mandate.The governors’ letter instead challenges the defense secretary’s ability to mete out punishments to Guardsmen who are not on federal status.

While each state’s Guard can be activated by its governor to help with relief efforts, for example, there are two federal statuses for Guardsmen: Title 10, which covers mobilizations at the behest of the president, as well as mandatory training and education; and Title 32, which is also at the behest of the president and federally funded, but leaves the governor at the top of the chain of command.
The fight over whether the Pentagon could enforce its vaccine mandate comes down to when the federal government has control over National Guard troops, which serve a dual role as a state militia. Oklahoma officials have said that Austin only has authority during a Title 10 activation.

The Pentagon has said that Title 32 status, which includes mandatory, monthly drill weekends, are also in their purview. As such, Austin has taken the stance that vaccines are part of a readiness requirement and that Guardsmen can’t drill without them.



https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...for-guardsmen/


This is one of those battles where if you have to fight it at all you have lost. The only question is how much.

Excargodog 12-20-2021 02:25 PM

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