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Old 12-22-2021, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter;[url=tel:3340115
3340115]This is a relevant article after the recent tribalism comments/trends. Those with comprehension will infer that tribalism has taken the place of organized religion. It's behind a paywall, but if you pry your wallet open and break out a $1 you can get a 3 month subscription. PS the WSJ is downloadable to an app, so you can read it while commuting.

Do Young Americans Have ‘a God-Shaped Hole’? - WSJThe Impulse of Religion

Increased secularization might have changed our behavior, but it has not curbed our urge to worship something, even if that something is ourselves. In an increasingly secular society, Americans have lost many of the healthy outlets they once had. Religion has always been a way for people to claim an identity, build community and create purpose for their lives. Without these outlets forcing them to look outward, Americans have become steadily more self-absorbed. This phenomenon is only encouraged by social media, which convinces people that self-expression should be their priority.
Yep. People have a need to serve something bigger than themselves.

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Old 12-22-2021, 07:34 AM
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City of Chicago requires proof of vaccination to enter bars, restaurants, gyms, and indoor venues starting now January 3rd, after the holidays.

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Old 12-22-2021, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by All 5 Stages View Post
City of Chicago requires proof of vaccination to enter bars, restaurants, gyms, and indoor venues starting now January 3rd, after the holidays.

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https://gray-dcc-gray-prod.cdn.arcpu...taurants-bars/
Whew, good thing Covid pays attention to the calendar...
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Old 12-22-2021, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux View Post
The shot should never have been called a vaccine. It shouldn’t continue to be called a vaccine.

It doesn't stop infection, or transmission.

It is, at best, a therapeutic (and that’s not nothing!!!!)
with a limited window of efficacy (2-6 months), but must be administered prior to infection.

But(!) it has a terrible side effect profile for some that is not well understood. Public health care measures for billions don’t care about YOU, at all.

The side effect profiles at risk are being updated and pulled from some groups as they’re discovered. This is not how “normal” vaccines are issued; normal vaccines are pulled in their entirety when unexpected problems are revealed.
Anything can be a "vaccine" if you change the definition of vaccine as this one was just a few months ago. Same for changing the criteria for herd immunity. And also changing the definition of "anti-vaxxer". They actually bragged about changing the definition of vaccine because "anti-vaxers" were quoting their own definition to them too much.
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Old 12-22-2021, 10:31 AM
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but it doesn't change the point that it's loudmouths like you pushing policy that not a lot of people agree with just because it fits your world agenda. Yes, I'm pushing mine as well, because by now you know I loathe the masks with every fiber of my being and I don't believe someone should be mandated to get a shot if they don't want it.

I'll give you the last word.
I’ve never once advocated wearing or not wearing a mask for the sake of the mask. I’m sorry that my words hurt your feelings when I implied one is a completely unprofessional fool to show up at a gate not wearing your uniform iaw the fom, or not adhering to federal law on airport property as a uniformed captain.

Please quote me pushing a policy other than the one above regarding masks or vaccines.

its got to be tough building a small little sand castle around your mind telling yourself everyone is out to get you, I’m sorry man. Hopefully you can come to the realization it’s not all about you
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux View Post
it has a terrible side effect profile for some that is not well understood.
I have heard this claim a number of times on these boards. There have been plenty anecdotal stories of how people have been hurt or killed by "the jab". Other than the blood clot issue with the J+J vaccine, I have not heard or seen any reliable data or expert discussion on long term or serious side effects of the approved vaccines. To be fair, that may well be because I'm lazy and haven't exactly searched it out.

So, in all seriousness, can someone provide a source for these claims or some data to back them up, preferably with the website ending in either '.gov' or '.edu'?
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Old 12-22-2021, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat View Post
I have heard this claim a number of times on these boards. There have been plenty anecdotal stories of how people have been hurt or killed by "the jab". Other than the blood clot issue with the J+J vaccine, I have not heard or seen any reliable data or expert discussion on long term or serious side effects of the approved vaccines. To be fair, that may well be because I'm lazy and haven't exactly searched it out.

So, in all seriousness, can someone provide a source for these claims or some data to back them up, preferably with the website ending in either '.gov' or '.edu'?
CDC I believe has acknowledged increase in myocarditis in young boys with the jab.
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CDC I believe has acknowledged increase in myocarditis in young boys with the jab.
https://newsroom.heart.org/news/young-people-recover-quickly-from-rare-myocarditis-side-effect-of-covid-19-vaccine
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Originally Posted by fishforfun View Post
CDC I believe has acknowledged increase in myocarditis in young boys with the jab.
They have also stated that almost every case resolves itself without long term damage.
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat View Post
I have heard this claim a number of times on these boards. There have been plenty anecdotal stories of how people have been hurt or killed by "the jab". Other than the blood clot issue with the J+J vaccine, I have not heard or seen any reliable data or expert discussion on long term or serious side effects of the approved vaccines. To be fair, that may well be because I'm lazy and haven't exactly searched it out.

So, in all seriousness, can someone provide a source for these claims or some data to back them up, preferably with the website ending in either '.gov' or '.edu'?
I know someone (60’s but healthy) who got blood clots from Covid and they were NOT vaccinated. Covid can cause blood clots, which (most) people know. ICU, intubated, 2 strokes (one massive). Recovered from Covid but now in long term care with a feeding tube and tracheotomy.

Vaccination is a safer path if you really want to avoid blood clots.
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