Mask mandate ending soon?
01-15-2022, 05:19 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Red Forman
We have 3 more years of mask mandates on airplanes, unfortunately.
01-15-2022, 05:51 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by 400000Dead
Oh Red. I saw you logging in every day during your ban. It's really sad that you were so desperate to log in just so you could say nasty things.
Be careful, you might get your pee-pee slapped again.
Be careful, you might get your pee-pee slapped again.
01-15-2022, 06:00 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
don’t forget, CDC also now admits ‘over 75%’ of covid deaths have had 4 or more comorbidities.
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01-15-2022, 09:17 PM
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For most of 2020 when no vaccines existed, the CDC data showed 94% of Covid deaths had on average 2.6 comorbidities. So I would say the 75% and 4 is probably pretty accurate.
But actually the CDC director misspoke. The data is even worse now. 95% have on average 4 comorbidities.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...Ktp6EsoVV2Qs1Q
“The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death.“
The director has a habit of misinformation. Last month the CDC’s own data on December 10th showed that children aged 5-11 had 14 known cases of vaccine related myocarditis reported as of the day prior. 8 of those met the CDC working case definition. Also on December 10th, the director told ABC news that they have not seen any signs of myocarditis in kids.
MSN reported December 28th the CDC over estimated omicron spread by 200%
On December 18th, Axios reported that the CDC overcounted by millions the number of people vaccinated. 850,000 In Pennsylvania alone. The Philadelphia Department of Public Health…
"we don’t have any faith in the numbers on the CDC website, and we never refer to them."
Apparently, scratching tally marks in a chalk board is more reliable than the CDC counting vaccinations. Pretty sure a 6th grade biology class could be running a better operation than what the CDC has done for the last 2 years.
But actually the CDC director misspoke. The data is even worse now. 95% have on average 4 comorbidities.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...Ktp6EsoVV2Qs1Q
“The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death.“
The director has a habit of misinformation. Last month the CDC’s own data on December 10th showed that children aged 5-11 had 14 known cases of vaccine related myocarditis reported as of the day prior. 8 of those met the CDC working case definition. Also on December 10th, the director told ABC news that they have not seen any signs of myocarditis in kids.
MSN reported December 28th the CDC over estimated omicron spread by 200%
On December 18th, Axios reported that the CDC overcounted by millions the number of people vaccinated. 850,000 In Pennsylvania alone. The Philadelphia Department of Public Health…
"we don’t have any faith in the numbers on the CDC website, and we never refer to them."
Apparently, scratching tally marks in a chalk board is more reliable than the CDC counting vaccinations. Pretty sure a 6th grade biology class could be running a better operation than what the CDC has done for the last 2 years.
Last edited by Thedude86; 01-15-2022 at 09:48 PM.
01-16-2022, 07:03 AM
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Masks aren’t going away I don’t think. They’re completely pointless but too many squeaky wheels out there NEED masks in their life and companies always cater to the squeaky wheels. I know some flight attendant unions are still actively pushing back against inflight service because of COVID concerns. So it’s not just the TSA holding up the mask mandate; it’s every costumer and employee who continues to wear them and let our policies be dictated by the those being the loudest
01-16-2022, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Thedude86
For most of 2020 when no vaccines existed, the CDC data showed 94% of Covid deaths had on average 2.6 comorbidities. So I would say the 75% and 4 is probably pretty accurate.
But actually the CDC director misspoke. The data is even worse now. 95% have on average 4 comorbidities.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...Ktp6EsoVV2Qs1Q
“The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death.“
The director has a habit of misinformation. Last month the CDC’s own data on December 10th showed that children aged 5-11 had 14 known cases of vaccine related myocarditis reported as of the day prior. 8 of those met the CDC working case definition. Also on December 10th, the director told ABC news that they have not seen any signs of myocarditis in kids.
MSN reported December 28th the CDC over estimated omicron spread by 200%
On December 18th, Axios reported that the CDC overcounted by millions the number of people vaccinated. 850,000 In Pennsylvania alone. The Philadelphia Department of Public Health…
"we don’t have any faith in the numbers on the CDC website, and we never refer to them."
Apparently, scratching tally marks in a chalk board is more reliable than the CDC counting vaccinations. Pretty sure a 6th grade biology class could be running a better operation than what the CDC has done for the last 2 years.
But actually the CDC director misspoke. The data is even worse now. 95% have on average 4 comorbidities.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...Ktp6EsoVV2Qs1Q
“The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death.“
The director has a habit of misinformation. Last month the CDC’s own data on December 10th showed that children aged 5-11 had 14 known cases of vaccine related myocarditis reported as of the day prior. 8 of those met the CDC working case definition. Also on December 10th, the director told ABC news that they have not seen any signs of myocarditis in kids.
MSN reported December 28th the CDC over estimated omicron spread by 200%
On December 18th, Axios reported that the CDC overcounted by millions the number of people vaccinated. 850,000 In Pennsylvania alone. The Philadelphia Department of Public Health…
"we don’t have any faith in the numbers on the CDC website, and we never refer to them."
Apparently, scratching tally marks in a chalk board is more reliable than the CDC counting vaccinations. Pretty sure a 6th grade biology class could be running a better operation than what the CDC has done for the last 2 years.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vpwSYQelMEg
01-16-2022, 10:00 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by Furloughedboi
Masks aren’t going away I don’t think. They’re completely pointless but too many squeaky wheels out there NEED masks in their life and companies always cater to the squeaky wheels. I know some flight attendant unions are still actively pushing back against inflight service because of COVID concerns. So it’s not just the TSA holding up the mask mandate; it’s every costumer and employee who continues to wear them and let our policies be dictated by the those being the loudest
01-16-2022, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ASAP
I agree the FA’s and their union are going to be the biggest stumbling block to the mandate being lifted. I’ve flown with enough of them that never take it off the entire four day trip. I’d say at least 30% wouldn’t fly without the forced masking, and that’s enough to basically ground the airline.
Easy to fire them, replace or they can VS with masks until they pass out from CO poisoning. Pax are tired of the masks. That is where it ends. The FAA needs to rule and the TSA needs to submit to that rule. Simple. Done.
Given the volumes of evidence and practical real world proof that masks simply don't work, it is on them to decide to wear one or not. The decision to wear on the plane, that is not theirs to make.
01-16-2022, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Drum
Majors its 6,7 or 8 week training program. No degree required, no medical exam either really.
Easy to fire them, replace or they can VS with masks until they pass out from CO poisoning. Pax are tired of the masks. That is where it ends. The FAA needs to rule and the TSA needs to submit to that rule. Simple. Done.
Given the volumes of evidence and practical real world proof that masks simply don't work, it is on them to decide to wear one or not. The decision to wear on the plane, that is not theirs to make.
Easy to fire them, replace or they can VS with masks until they pass out from CO poisoning. Pax are tired of the masks. That is where it ends. The FAA needs to rule and the TSA needs to submit to that rule. Simple. Done.
Given the volumes of evidence and practical real world proof that masks simply don't work, it is on them to decide to wear one or not. The decision to wear on the plane, that is not theirs to make.
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01-16-2022, 11:32 AM
#30
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Originally Posted by ASAP
I agree the FA’s and their union are going to be the biggest stumbling block to the mandate being lifted. I’ve flown with enough of them that never take it off the entire four day trip. I’d say at least 30% wouldn’t fly without the forced masking, and that’s enough to basically ground the airline.
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