Out of the Box Thought....
10-05-2017, 08:39 AM
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Out of the Box Thought....
We all know what’s going on with the CS100 and the tariff. According to the complaint and initial DofC ruling the major reason it was imposed is because of a major subsidy to Bombardier provided by the Canadian government.
Here’s my thought, Why doesn’t (Delta and all major US airlines) file a complaint with DofC against the ME3? They’re getting a lot more money from their respective governments in subsidies than Bombardier. The tariff could be on each seat provided by the ME3 that lands or departs from a US city......
Just a thought...
Denny
Here’s my thought, Why doesn’t (Delta and all major US airlines) file a complaint with DofC against the ME3? They’re getting a lot more money from their respective governments in subsidies than Bombardier. The tariff could be on each seat provided by the ME3 that lands or departs from a US city......
Just a thought...
Denny
10-05-2017, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
We all know what’s going on with the CS100 and the tariff. According to the complaint and initial DofC ruling the major reason it was imposed is because of a major subsidy to Bombardier provided by the Canadian government.
Here’s my thought, Why doesn’t (Delta and all major US airlines) file a complaint with DofC against the ME3? They’re getting a lot more money from their respective governments in subsidies than Bombardier. The tariff could be on each seat provided by the ME3 that lands or departs from a US city......
Just a thought...
Denny
Here’s my thought, Why doesn’t (Delta and all major US airlines) file a complaint with DofC against the ME3? They’re getting a lot more money from their respective governments in subsidies than Bombardier. The tariff could be on each seat provided by the ME3 that lands or departs from a US city......
Just a thought...
Denny
10-05-2017, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Precontact
Trump loves Boeing
ME3 love Boeing
Delta doesn't love Boeing
Who do yo think would win this?
ME3 love Boeing
Delta doesn't love Boeing
Who do yo think would win this?
The Boeing lobby has won every battle so far. To boot, more than a couple airlines support the ME3. Follow the lobbying power ($). I'm still reaching out to my congressmen and senators, but no headway yet.
10-05-2017, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
We all know what’s going on with the CS100 and the tariff. According to the complaint and initial DofC ruling the major reason it was imposed is because of a major subsidy to Bombardier provided by the Canadian government.
Here’s my thought, Why doesn’t (Delta and all major US airlines) file a complaint with DofC against the ME3? They’re getting a lot more money from their respective governments in subsidies than Bombardier. The tariff could be on each seat provided by the ME3 that lands or departs from a US city......
Just a thought...
Denny
Here’s my thought, Why doesn’t (Delta and all major US airlines) file a complaint with DofC against the ME3? They’re getting a lot more money from their respective governments in subsidies than Bombardier. The tariff could be on each seat provided by the ME3 that lands or departs from a US city......
Just a thought...
Denny
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...er-boeing-spat
10-06-2017, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by cni187
"Bombardier’s case rests on the fact the government of Quebec’s aid package was not a subsidy -- but rather a direct investment in the C Series program. In exchange for a $1 billion cash infusion, the Canadian province received a 49.5 percent stake in the C Series."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...er-boeing-spat
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...er-boeing-spat
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...by-illegal-aid
10-06-2017, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by NormalAbnormal
10-06-2017, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Indy
...And what about Boeing's subsidies via the Ex/Im Bank?
I haven't looked at the spread in a while, but the way you do this is to look at the Ex/Im Bank rate compared to EETC rates for the carrier you are looking at. They used to be as much as 7% different (2% v. 9%) depending on the airline doing the buying, and the tranch level.
Now I think they are much closer. Consider the recent Air France bond offering at (I think) 3.75%. They could use that money to buy aircraft v. Ex/Im Bank money. And I don't think Air France is considered investment grade by any measure.
10-06-2017, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kansas
Sadly this is all true.
The Boeing lobby has won every battle so far. To boot, more than a couple airlines support the ME3. Follow the lobbying power ($). I'm still reaching out to my congressmen and senators, but no headway yet.
The Boeing lobby has won every battle so far. To boot, more than a couple airlines support the ME3. Follow the lobbying power ($). I'm still reaching out to my congressmen and senators, but no headway yet.
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