How To (Vacation) Bid Thanksgiving Off
01-08-2018, 01:52 PM
#13
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So I'm in the fortunate position of being still relatively new but close to 40% in domicile (hello Mad Dog!). I've got two weeks of vacation to bid and would like the first week of April (Spring Break) and the last block in December (New Years and school break). Given my seniority I can hold any of this stuff off anyway, but I struggle to prioritize them.
Do the Spring Break blocks (block 1) actually get snapped up before the Xmas/New Years blocks (block 40)?
I also have a zero'd Bank. Is there any benefit to me purchasing a few extra vacation days to add to the Spring Break week of vacation (block 1)?
Thanks!
Do the Spring Break blocks (block 1) actually get snapped up before the Xmas/New Years blocks (block 40)?
I also have a zero'd Bank. Is there any benefit to me purchasing a few extra vacation days to add to the Spring Break week of vacation (block 1)?
Thanks!
01-08-2018, 03:06 PM
#14
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Just an educated guess but if you can bid them off via a regular schedule, I’d probably use the vacation to bid the December week off first and then go for spring break second. There are more restrictions in December with bidding etc and I’ll bet more people want that time off than a particular spring break.
I think most guys bid to get Xmas, summer, and thanksgiving vacation (not necessarily in that order) before they worry about spring break...
Denny
I think most guys bid to get Xmas, summer, and thanksgiving vacation (not necessarily in that order) before they worry about spring break...
Denny
01-10-2018, 11:38 AM
#16
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Originally Posted by Kjazz130
I can’t remember from last year, how long does it normally take for primary vaca awards to come out?
01-10-2018, 11:42 AM
#17
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let's follow up here...
for that part, how do i add a day at the beginning from my bank? All i want is my vacation to start one day earlier. figure its easier to just confirm it now instead of trying to bid it off since we are buying tickets/hotels.
Assuming you take action prior to April 1st, you can place your Extra VAC Days at the beginning or end of an awarded vacation week. Since you were on top of it, and placed your days prior to the start of the next vacation year (April 1st) there is no need for company concurrence!
for that part, how do i add a day at the beginning from my bank? All i want is my vacation to start one day earlier. figure its easier to just confirm it now instead of trying to bid it off since we are buying tickets/hotels.
01-10-2018, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
let's follow up here...
for that part, how do i add a day at the beginning from my bank? All i want is my vacation to start one day earlier. figure its easier to just confirm it now instead of trying to bid it off since we are buying tickets/hotels.
for that part, how do i add a day at the beginning from my bank? All i want is my vacation to start one day earlier. figure its easier to just confirm it now instead of trying to bid it off since we are buying tickets/hotels.
Specifically, go into iCrew->Pay Hours->Bank->Add/Update Bank Request->Enter Option 3 & how many days you want. The result will be reflected on your Time Card.
Then sometime before 4/1, call the Vacation Desk and let them know where you would like to place your purchased days. If you don't do this before your final vacation week is awarded, it will automatically be added to that vacation. Still no big deal, as you can still move them around up until the vacation year begins (and after, but with more restrictions.)
For the Vacation Desk phone number, and some more good information, go to Deltanet->Search: "Vacation Bidding Tips". This will return a pdf with all the info you need + the phone number to call.
Relevant Language from the Scheduling Reference Handbook:
Placement of Purchased or Supplemental Vacation Days
Purchased and supplemental vacation days may be placed at the beginning or end of any vacation period for
the subsequent vacation year.
Two exceptions apply:
1. A vacation period may only be expanded by a block of seven consecutive purchased or supplemental
vacation days in the month of December or the first 10 days of January. Such an expansion constitutes
the bidding and awarding of a posted vacation week, and that week must be available for award.
2. April and May vacation periods may be subject to a limited number of purchased vacation days to be
set by the Company. This limitation is designed to allow the Company to remain in compliance with
the staffing requirements under Section 22 C.
A pilot’s placement options vary slightly depending on the timing of the request.
• During Initial Vacation Bidding (prior to February 21)—A pilot may indicate the number of purchased
or supplemental vacation days he wishes to place at the beginning or end of a particular vacation
period at the time he bids for that vacation period. If he does not designate where the purchased or
supplemental vacation days are to be added, they will automatically be added to the beginning or end
of his last awarded vacation week.
Note: If a pilot wishes to place additional vacation days at the beginning or end of a vacation period
in December or the first 10 days of January, but does not meet the exception requirements for placing
additional vacation days, and:
1. He is not bidding his last vacation period, the vacation will be awarded but the additional days
will not be awarded.
2. He is bidding his last vacation period, the vacation and additional days will be awarded together,
but not in December or the first 10 days of January.
• After Initial Vacation Bidding Closes (February 21 to March 31)—Any vacation days purchased after
vacation bidding closes must be placed at the beginning or end of an awarded vacation period. A pilot
may also request to move any previously awarded purchased or supplemental vacation days to the
beginning or end of any other awarded vacation period. This does not require Company agreement,
but Exceptions 1 and 2 above still apply.
• After the Vacation Year Begins (April 1)—After the beginning of the new vacation year, a pilot may
purchase vacation days for the current year. The days must be placed at the beginning or end of a vacation
period for the current vacation year by mutual agreement with the Company. A pilot may also
purchase vacation days for the subsequent vacation year
Purchased and supplemental vacation days may be placed at the beginning or end of any vacation period for
the subsequent vacation year.
Two exceptions apply:
1. A vacation period may only be expanded by a block of seven consecutive purchased or supplemental
vacation days in the month of December or the first 10 days of January. Such an expansion constitutes
the bidding and awarding of a posted vacation week, and that week must be available for award.
2. April and May vacation periods may be subject to a limited number of purchased vacation days to be
set by the Company. This limitation is designed to allow the Company to remain in compliance with
the staffing requirements under Section 22 C.
A pilot’s placement options vary slightly depending on the timing of the request.
• During Initial Vacation Bidding (prior to February 21)—A pilot may indicate the number of purchased
or supplemental vacation days he wishes to place at the beginning or end of a particular vacation
period at the time he bids for that vacation period. If he does not designate where the purchased or
supplemental vacation days are to be added, they will automatically be added to the beginning or end
of his last awarded vacation week.
Note: If a pilot wishes to place additional vacation days at the beginning or end of a vacation period
in December or the first 10 days of January, but does not meet the exception requirements for placing
additional vacation days, and:
1. He is not bidding his last vacation period, the vacation will be awarded but the additional days
will not be awarded.
2. He is bidding his last vacation period, the vacation and additional days will be awarded together,
but not in December or the first 10 days of January.
• After Initial Vacation Bidding Closes (February 21 to March 31)—Any vacation days purchased after
vacation bidding closes must be placed at the beginning or end of an awarded vacation period. A pilot
may also request to move any previously awarded purchased or supplemental vacation days to the
beginning or end of any other awarded vacation period. This does not require Company agreement,
but Exceptions 1 and 2 above still apply.
• After the Vacation Year Begins (April 1)—After the beginning of the new vacation year, a pilot may
purchase vacation days for the current year. The days must be placed at the beginning or end of a vacation
period for the current vacation year by mutual agreement with the Company. A pilot may also
purchase vacation days for the subsequent vacation year
01-10-2018, 12:08 PM
#19
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Posts: 4,503
Originally Posted by FlightCrewTools
I always wait until I have all my vacations awarded, but you can do it any time prior to April 1st (minding the carveouts).
Specifically, go into iCrew->Pay Hours->Bank->Add/Update Bank Request->Enter Option 3 & how many days you want. The result will be reflected on your Time Card.
Then sometime before 4/1, call the Vacation Desk and let them know where you would like to place your purchased days. If you don't do this before your final vacation week is awarded, it will automatically be added to that vacation. Still no big deal, as you can still move them around up until the vacation year begins (and after, but with more restrictions.)
For the Vacation Desk phone number, and some more good information, go to Deltanet->Search: "Vacation Bidding Tips". This will return a pdf with all the info you need + the phone number to call.
Relevant Language from the Scheduling Reference Handbook:
Specifically, go into iCrew->Pay Hours->Bank->Add/Update Bank Request->Enter Option 3 & how many days you want. The result will be reflected on your Time Card.
Then sometime before 4/1, call the Vacation Desk and let them know where you would like to place your purchased days. If you don't do this before your final vacation week is awarded, it will automatically be added to that vacation. Still no big deal, as you can still move them around up until the vacation year begins (and after, but with more restrictions.)
For the Vacation Desk phone number, and some more good information, go to Deltanet->Search: "Vacation Bidding Tips". This will return a pdf with all the info you need + the phone number to call.
Relevant Language from the Scheduling Reference Handbook:
01-11-2018, 09:38 AM
#20
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Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 8
Great thread I wish I would have read before the bids closed! My #1 choice was week 35 (November 25th) and I was awarded 2 weeks. I was also given 2 additional days due to my healthy category scoring under the 5.5% sick threshold which were placed on Black Friday and Saturday.
However...I have purchased 4 days from the bank and I attempted to have them attached to the back of my vacation. I didn’t understand the 01DEC-10JAN carve out. So those days weren’t awarded. Question #1 - I just call up the vacation hotline number and request where I want them? Question #2 - it appears that my only option for their placement is Monday-Thanksgiving Day and that I no longer have any option to buy further days (until after April 1st, staffing permitting and company concurance).
Again, great thread.
However...I have purchased 4 days from the bank and I attempted to have them attached to the back of my vacation. I didn’t understand the 01DEC-10JAN carve out. So those days weren’t awarded. Question #1 - I just call up the vacation hotline number and request where I want them? Question #2 - it appears that my only option for their placement is Monday-Thanksgiving Day and that I no longer have any option to buy further days (until after April 1st, staffing permitting and company concurance).
Again, great thread.
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