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Old 01-09-2018 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Exactly. That's why I suspect they are either making it up as they go, don't have a clue or are just FOS. I'll send it to the scheduling committee. That will take awhile with all the recent RRs.(I'm guessing)
The coverage is done by computer. The scheduler is not really involved in legalities. That is why this item had a delayed implementation. There was a lot of programming involved.
I suspect in your case had you flown the trip you were sick on you would have had a 100 in 28 violation. It could however have been in other FAR violation. The scheduler did not really know how to explain it. The trip pickup being denied would however be correct. You can look at your block hours on your time card and add back in the sick trip and get a pretty good idea if they are right or wrong. Keep in mind however that 28 in 100 is a look forward as well as look back rule for trip awards unless you agree to a unpaid drop for a trip in the following month.
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Old 01-09-2018 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Wrong.

I was just told 30 days at the bottom following my sick call.

I dropped a trip back on DEC 20 (first PCS run) and intended to pick up something else because I need a specific day off. A WS went out junior to me so I called to ask why. You guessed it......sick call sends you to the bottom of the list for 30 days.


edit: Just read 23.P.3. That seemed to clear things up....NOT. I don't think the scheduler or I have any idea how this is supposed to be applied. Time to call my rep. Again. Glad we vetted this fully before the vote.
??? 30 days or 30 minutes?

23.P.3 actually seems pretty clear. Here is the big picture: If you flew your rotation rather than calling in sick, would the FARs permit you to white slip that trip you put in for considering the PWA's 30 minute buffer? If the answer is yes, you got screwed and you need to call DALPA scheduling ASAP. If the answer is no, all is as it should be.

However, don't forget that you get the added "bonus" that the PWA allows you to white slip a trip you would not have been legal for had you flown your original rotation (the one you sicked out from) if that rotation has not been awarded after processing all submitted white slips.
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Old 01-10-2018 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
??? 30 days or 30 minutes?

23.P.3 actually seems pretty clear. Here is the big picture: If you flew your rotation rather than calling in sick, would the FARs permit you to white slip that trip you put in for considering the PWA's 30 minute buffer? If the answer is yes, you got screwed and you need to call DALPA scheduling ASAP. If the answer is no, all is as it should be.

However, don't forget that you get the added "bonus" that the PWA allows you to white slip a trip you would not have been legal for had you flown your original rotation (the one you sicked out from) if that rotation has not been awarded after processing all submitted white slips.

This is basically the same for a white or greenslip.

Remember, if no one else is available you would get the Greenslip even if you would have been illegal had you not called in sick.

So if you put in a WS request you will definitely not get the GS.

Bottom line - You go to the back of the list if your sick time make you legal for something you would not have been legal for.

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Old 01-10-2018 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Remember, if no one else is available you would get the Greenslip even if you would have been illegal had you not called in sick.

So if you put in a WS request you will definitely not get the GS.

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Yup....agreed. Thought his post was about a denied WS though. And he might get the WS but not the GS based on qualifiers/conditions of those senior to him.
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