Calendar day
 

Evidently we are getting calendar day back here at AA after 26 odd years. There is opposition to it because the fear is that trips will tighten up with earlier shows, later release, and longer 4-5 day trips so the airline can get max productivity for the 5.15 calendar day.
What has been the experience at DAL with this? Did trips change after implementation or have you always had it? Any intel appreciated.

We don't have calendar day. I share the fears about first and last days too... surprised so many commuters want it. Maybe some exceptions to first and last day... calendar day on tweeners only?

We have average day of 5:15, which I think has been generally well received.

As I understand it, you guys are getting Average Daily Credit like we have at DAL, not Min Calendar Day.

Im much more a fan of min day pay, but it seems like a pretty big ask compared to what we have.

Just be prepared for a 7-8 hour flying day with 2 2-3 hour flying days and getting paid 15:45

Yup....but it is better than the "Bankruptcy to FAR117 LOA" time when you could work 6.5 hours, have a 30 hour layover, and work another 6.5 hours and get 13 hours for 3 days of work rather than today's 15:45. At least we are moving in the right direction.

As a commuter to ATL, the trips seem to be pretty good. The 3 days are a mixed bag, 4 days are mostly commutable, and the 5 days are very commutable (afternoon show, early AM release). I only have a year sample size and I'm sure it could be better.

On the narrowbody, it seems like everything is built very close to the 15:45, 21:00, 26:15. They really don't like having soft time in there. The widebody trips tend to pay with the trip rig 3.5:1 so the 5:15 doesn't come into play.

Much appreciated. Thanks!

It’s why I wish we could improve our rig to 3 to 1.

Average vs min is a loser for the pilots, period.

So is it an average daily or a hard daily credit?

Average daily...