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Originally Posted by Ray Red (Post 2498811)

I guess the proof will be in the pudding. Either there will be more frequent AE’s or there won’t

They will not be more frequent. They will be what we normally have. 6 per year give or take 1.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2498818)

They will not be more frequent. They will be what we normally have. 6 per year give or take 1.

I’m sure you are correct, but I would like to see the actual number of AEs for the last 10 years.

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Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2498864)

I’m sure you are correct, but I would like to see the actual number of AEs for the last 10 years.

Funny you should say that. I posted the AE’s for the last 5 years on here just a few weeks ago.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2498871)

Funny you should say that. I posted the AE’s for the last 5 years on here just a few weeks ago.

Humor us and repost those numbers here please.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2498804)

Not even remotely correct. The Aug bid was delayed to Oct and then canceled. It was for the C series.

Wrong again.

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Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2498957)

Wrong again.

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Ok, your right, the Aug bid was not planned primarily to fill Cseries training slots and the Dec bid was not primarily to fill A350 slots that were planned for Feb.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2498966)

Ok, your right, the Aug bid was not planned primarily to fill Cseries training slots and the Dec bid was not primarily to fill A350 slots that were planned for Feb.

the aug bid was planned to be c series, 350, and NB positions...it was delayed to october, then delayed until december. same bid planned just with c series removed. it wasn't some magical bid they added.

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Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2499027)

This is correct.

We've averaged about 4 bids a year in my 11 years here, as well. He keeps doubling down, though. ;)

With them pushing this bid back, we'll be lucky to see 4 again this year.

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Originally Posted by trustbutverify (Post 2498875)

Humor us and repost those numbers here please.

From crew resources, sorry about the formatting. AE's since 2012
For the 5 years from 2102 through 2016 30 total or 6 per year average.
Year
Month
2012
March
2012
August
2012
October
2013
March
2013
June
2013
July
2013
September
2013
October
2013
December
2014
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2014
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2014
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2014
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2014
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2014
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2014
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2015
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February
2017
May

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2498664)

Actually just the opposite. Long before the big bid came out they were stating with the shutdown of the 747 and intro of the 350 they would post a very large 1 year bid. They were talking about it in the fall of 16. Even given that crew resources states they posted 4 AE’s last year. I only recall 3 however.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2499030)

Well, someone is putting out false information or lying based on the 2017 information alone. I replied when you originally posted those 5 year AE numbers that those numbers were highly suspect based on my memory which indicates AE frequencies more in line with what 80kts remembers. Three or 4/ year is more accurate with a couple years having more primarily for base/fleet closures and draw downs.

I'll be really surprised if we see 6 true AEs in 2018. I'm not talking about the MD-88 displacement bids with a couple of AEs mixed in, I'm taking pure AEs.