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Originally Posted by BlueRidger328 (Post 2499993)

How many times do I have to say it. It’s not “Raccoon”! It’s “TRASH PANDA”

I like to think of it as more of a Hamburglar

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Originally Posted by GliderCFI (Post 2499998)

I like to think of it as more of a Hamburglar

But Trash Panda is worse.
So much worse.

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Originally Posted by Dustycrophopper (Post 2499849)

I think I read somewhere that the new 330 Neos coming will have the same flight deck as the 350. It would be great to have a common fleet type (that paid 350 rates) but then you have the classic flight deck of the classic 330s. I wonder if there is a retrofit available to change the flight deck of the current 330 to the Neo flight deck. If there was one big 330/350 category the trips would be really good.
If this is not possible to do what will they do with the different flight decks of the two 330s

Combining categories would require less pilots for those airplanes. No thanks.

330-900s will be included in the 330 category.

The 350 is different enough that the FAA required landings in both the 330 and 350 for currency, which is too onerous to justify a combined category. UA and AA keep the 777 and 787 separate as well for similar reasons.

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2500046)

Wait, pilots are actually allowed to land an Airbus?

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Originally Posted by Dustycrophopper (Post 2499849)

I'd rather they keep the categories separate so we get the benefit of more pilots which is way better than a few pilots making a little higher rate. Be very careful what you wish for.

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Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 2500393)

Wait, pilots are actually allowed to land an Airbus?

Only after it calls you a retard!

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2500046)

330-900s will be included in the 330 category.

The 350 is different enough that the FAA required landings in both the 330 and 350 for currency, which is too onerous to justify a combined category. UA and AA keep the 777 and 787 separate as well for similar reasons.

It's not just TO/landing currency, they require separate segment currency i.e. for all 8 phases, which is not practical for Delta.

Also, A330 and A350 are separate type ratings as printed on a pilot certificate in the FAA world, unlike "757/767".

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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood (Post 2501785)

It's not just TO/landing currency, they require separate segment currency i.e. for all 8 phases, which is not practical for Delta.

What does that mean? If you did the TO, flew it to TOC plus a minute, and then from a minute prior to TOD to landing, wouldn't that be all phases? And how would they even track all that?

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2501902)

What does that mean? If you did the TO, flew it to TOC plus a minute, and then from a minute prior to TOD to landing, wouldn't that be all phases? And how would they even track all that?

As much as I understand - close, but you would need to hang out a little longer (maybe 2 minutes :) ) to accomplish:

(Task 4.1 in CO) Perform Cruise Operations:
Nav Accuracy Check
WWO Perform Long Range Navigation Waypoint Passage Procedures
Oceanic Entry
Applicable theater procedures
SelCal Check
SLOP
RVSM
Communications
Driftdown review
Divert review

That segment currency would have to be accomplished for each pilot (obviously including reserve) on each type (330 and 350) every .. 6 or 9 months, I can't remember.
The amount of 4 dudes rotations and challenges of tracking the currency drove the decision to create separate categories at Delta.

Initially, however, there was a debate with bean counters, but when our first initial cadre guys went to train on A350 in the spring of 2015 they all agree on separate categories and the company honored it.