How big is your DPSP?
#73
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
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#75
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
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I usually hear real estate (typically from real estate investors) that it’s the best way to make money. I question that. I’ve read arguments on both sides and confirmation bias will probably lead you to info supporting you particular style.
For me, investing in securities is the ultimate way to create wealth, because I’m lazy. It’s not capital or time intensive (although it can be if you want) and you can easily generate outsized returns and income with leveraged options. It’s not as scary as it sounds and can be done so conservatively if you take the time to learn how to use them. For me, this is part of my plan to generate additional growth while I’m working and income while I’m in retirement.
If all goes well, 30 years from now my retirement account should be quite hefty and that coupled with some leveraged options, I think generating enough to live off of will be possible very conservatively. But then again, a lot can happen between now and 30 years from now.
I do believe that real estate should be part of everyone’s portfolio, though either through physical ownership or a good REIT.
For me, investing in securities is the ultimate way to create wealth, because I’m lazy. It’s not capital or time intensive (although it can be if you want) and you can easily generate outsized returns and income with leveraged options. It’s not as scary as it sounds and can be done so conservatively if you take the time to learn how to use them. For me, this is part of my plan to generate additional growth while I’m working and income while I’m in retirement.
If all goes well, 30 years from now my retirement account should be quite hefty and that coupled with some leveraged options, I think generating enough to live off of will be possible very conservatively. But then again, a lot can happen between now and 30 years from now.
I do believe that real estate should be part of everyone’s portfolio, though either through physical ownership or a good REIT.
#77
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: 777 Cap
Posts: 199
Ok. I honestly can't see the upside, and the downside is that one might think an average depiction of inky a portion of others' financial picture has bearing on their own plan. How is this better than comparing one's own retirement assets against any number of professionally-recommended milestones/strategies?
There are 3-year pilots who are 29, and 3-year pilots who are 59. At both extremes, some have millions in savings as others have zero (which wouldn't be in this data). What is one to do with that info?
I just can't see how such a report offers more help than reading something like this in 2 minutes:
https://www.investors.com/etfs-and-f...ge-and-income/
There are 3-year pilots who are 29, and 3-year pilots who are 59. At both extremes, some have millions in savings as others have zero (which wouldn't be in this data). What is one to do with that info?
I just can't see how such a report offers more help than reading something like this in 2 minutes:
https://www.investors.com/etfs-and-f...ge-and-income/
Previous communications showed average account balance by age. We told the record keeper that there was not much value in those numbers from a motivational standpoint, as there are 23 and 50 year olds in the same new hire class.
By showing average account balance by years of service, a pilot can look at a single item and see how they stack up.
It opens a conversation and makes them look at their own savings habits, their choice in investments, and potentially the effectiveness of their advisor.
If you think you are doing fine as their are two commas, maybe a good thing to see that the average account balance for other people hired at the same time is 50% larger than yours.
Yes this but a single data point in a large retirement readiness picture, but typically it is the single biggest data point.
#79
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
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If someone only wants a single data point and wants to motivate (or congratulate) themselves, they should consider plotting their years-to-retirement vs. savings as a function of annual income. See if you're where professional estate planners suggest you be.
But I give... if this data will complete your personal financial evaluation, then have at it. I've heard crazier things before.
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