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Denny Crane 01-23-2018 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by Planetrain (Post 2509826)
Your question is do the 4 days of IVD renew Jan1 or Apr1 or hire month (like APD)? I understood it from TA roadshows to be Apr1. Anyone else confirm?

It only makes sense that they renew with each vacation year. So they answer to that would be April 1 of each year.

WickedSmaht, thanks!

Denny

Han Solo 01-24-2018 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2509922)
It only makes sense that they renew with each vacation year. So they answer to that would be April 1 of each year.

WickedSmaht, thanks!

Denny

You are correct.

Contract reference is 7.I.1.

Plus in section 14.K.4, if you're in one of the categories that receives supplemental vacation days, that day can be used as an IVD instance. IE, if you're in the <6% category you now have 5 IVDs in 3 instances and if you're in a <5.5% category you now have 6 IVDs to be used on 4 occasions.

EDIT: it also appears you must convert vacation to an IVD from the same vacation year. For grins I tried to IVD my day of supplemental vacation in September '18 into January and Icrew gave me an error message "MATCHING VACATION RANGE NOT FOUND".

WickedSmaht 01-24-2018 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2509922)
It only makes sense that they renew with each vacation year. So they answer to that would be April 1 of each year.

WickedSmaht, thanks!

Denny

No problem amigo!

overspeed 01-27-2018 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2509302)
Thanks! This is what I was looking for........all I can ask is........are you positive about your last sentence? During the PCS process will the computer actually see the APD under the TOFF day and not award a trip?

Denny

Pile on and clarification. I have a 5-day in February . I APD the last day of the trip, and white slip a 5 day that overlaps the first 4 days of the trip. Can scheduling then put a single Banked PB day over the APD, saving my APD, or will they have to use 5 of my PB days? I know when I PD they will only put PB days starting on the beginning of the trip(use 1 or more PB days). Thanks in advance.

Denny Crane 01-27-2018 08:23 PM

I sent this question to the union. The gist of the answer is: 1. You will not get your APD back. (Which I didn't expect.) 2. TOFF will cover the APD but.......CS will move APD to a different day. I suspect you can talk to CS and have them put it on a day you are good with but I don't know for sure.

Denny

Denny Crane 01-27-2018 08:27 PM

I was thinking this would be a good thread to maybe pin and use as a place to ask scheduling questions..........maybe?

Denny

Denny Crane 02-04-2018 11:09 AM

Another scheduling question......

Here is the situation. There is only one open time trip in my category for the rest of the month and I don’t want to WS it. I’m going to PD a three day trip. If I call CS immediately after it drops and use PB days from last year to cover the 3 days, I will be severely limited in white slipping a trip by my Max Pickup.

Question: Can I wait till later in the month to call and cover the trip with PB days...........after I get a white slip that gives me the hours I want? In other words, is there a time limit on covering a PD with payback days or do you just have to do it by the end of the month?

Denny

overspeed 02-04-2018 05:09 PM

I know you can wait a few days, but not sure how long, or if you can do it after the drop date passes. I would ask a scheduler. If you drop and pickup quickly, you’re not limited to the max pickup.

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2519891)
Another scheduling question......

Here is the situation. There is only one open time trip in my category for the rest of the month and I don’t want to WS it. I’m going to PD a three day trip. If I call CS immediately after it drops and use PB days from last year to cover the 3 days, I will be severely limited in white slipping a trip by my Max Pickup.

Question: Can I wait till later in the month to call and cover the trip with PB days...........after I get a white slip that gives me the hours I want? In other words, is there a time limit on covering a PD with payback days or do you just have to do it by the end of the month?

Denny


Denny Crane 02-04-2018 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by overspeed (Post 2520103)
I know you can wait a few days, but not sure how long, or if you can do it after the drop date passes. I would ask a scheduler. If you drop and pickup quickly, you’re not limited to the max pickup.

Thanks. I was able to white slip what I wanted. I didn’t think the trips would become available like they did. I’m going to call and use the SUP days to cover it. The only thing is.......one of the trips I WS’d is the same one I dropped. I’ll have to try and explain it to CS coherently!

Denny

blue vortex 02-05-2018 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2520241)
Thanks. I was able to white slip what I wanted. I didn’t think the trips would become available like they did. I’m going to call and use the SUP days to cover it. The only thing is.......one of the trips I WS’d is the same one I dropped. I’ll have to try and explain it to CS coherently!

Denny

Denny-
When c/s messes it up and they probably will, pm me and I will give you T.E.'s phone/email so she can sort it out.


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