Denny Crane

I have a 3 day trip I'm trying to PD and cover with PB days from last year. Problem is reserve coverage.

If I APD the trip, my schedule will show APD and I cannot white slip over it. But, if I call Scheduling and use PB days from last year, my schedule now says TOFF.

The question: Can I now white slip the same trip back?

Denny

Han Solo

If reserve coverage is a problem then you can't PD. If you want to drop the trip use the APD for a single day and then WS around that APD. Most likely your best bet is APD the 1st or last day of the trip depending what's available. You will not be paid for this trip nor do I think you can put PB days on top of any APD days.

If you can PD, then call CS and have them put PB days on top of days you'd like to be paid. You can fly on top of TOFF.

If you have vacation remaining then you can use up to 3 IVDs which act exactly like an APD except you are paid. IVDs run immediately before APDs so they potentially have a higher chance of dropping a trip than an APD.

Denny Crane

I understand all of that. I have 7 PB days from last year. In a perfect world, I would PD the trip, call crew scheduling and use 3 days to cover it. Then whiteslip the same trip, PD it again and use 3 more days. The trip is worth 21 hours so now I would be at 42 hours using 6 days. I then PD a HKG trip that on day one is worth 14+ hours. I'm now at 56+ hours for 7 days. I then actually fly one 4 day HKG trip. I only fly 4 days for February and get paid for 82.5 hours. Like I said, in a perfect world. So far, the world is far from perfect but it has potential.........

Problem is there is next to nothing in open time so I have very little to work with this month.

The question is..............since APD would no longer be on my schedule even though I used it (because TOFF takes its place), can I pick up a trip over the day used for APD? I suspect so but was wondering if anyone has tried it. I'm gonna give the regular PD awhile longer and see what happens. Just thinking about what I'm going to do if it doesn't drop by the 31st........

Denny

3 green

I thought you could use unlimited IVD's? Is it only 3?

NoDeskJob

You can IVD twice in a vacation year.
Once, for 1 day. The other time for 3 days.

IPAs

Can not pick up a trip over an APD. Hard day off, just like a vacation day. I'm no sched guru but I'm pretty sure this is correct.

Hossharris

Read up on IVD. You can 2/2 and 4/0 as well.

You can IVD up to twice. In aggregate you can use 4 days of future, unused vacation.

Denny Crane

You can do 4/0? I would think the best you can do is 3/1. To use IVD don't you have to have vacation available in a later month during the vacation year?

Denny

Denny Crane

I understand this is the normal case but..........there are three months out of the year (Jan, Feb, Mar) where you can APD a trip AND use PB days to cover it for pay. To do this Scheduling has to manually go in and take APD off your schedule and insert TOFF. What I'm wondering is if this change now allows one to white slip a trip over the day that USED to say APD. Hence the name of this thread......

Denny

Hossharris

I’m new so take it for what it’s worth, but that is my understanding of the srh and pwa