Terminating ROR and SAP service
02-06-2018 | 07:22 PM
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Don't patronize me.
That's why I bring it up, I'm hoping for a better explanation. The way it's been explained to me is simply that once the closer Tokyo airport came to be, the Narita hub more or less became obsolete.
If you actually gave a damn about protecting scope, your career, your pacific routes, whatever, you'd be better served to educate the next generation already rapidly filling the ranks rather than belittle them.
Now, would you care to try again?
That's why I bring it up, I'm hoping for a better explanation. The way it's been explained to me is simply that once the closer Tokyo airport came to be, the Narita hub more or less became obsolete.
If you actually gave a damn about protecting scope, your career, your pacific routes, whatever, you'd be better served to educate the next generation already rapidly filling the ranks rather than belittle them.
Now, would you care to try again?
02-06-2018 | 07:52 PM
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Don't patronize me.
That's why I bring it up, I'm hoping for a better explanation. The way it's been explained to me is simply that once the closer Tokyo airport came to be, the Narita hub more or less became obsolete.
If you actually gave a damn about protecting scope, your career, your pacific routes, whatever, you'd be better served to educate the next generation already rapidly filling the ranks rather than belittle them.
Now, would you care to try again?
That's why I bring it up, I'm hoping for a better explanation. The way it's been explained to me is simply that once the closer Tokyo airport came to be, the Narita hub more or less became obsolete.
If you actually gave a damn about protecting scope, your career, your pacific routes, whatever, you'd be better served to educate the next generation already rapidly filling the ranks rather than belittle them.
Now, would you care to try again?
02-06-2018 | 08:09 PM
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They are not going away. The flying is shifting to Korean and China Eastern. Delta will still be making profits from those destinations.
Sad, very sad that we are not going to organically fly these cities but times are changing and with this Management team expect more outsourcing. Yes, we will reward our shareholders and we will get a Profit Sharing check which after withholdings is not worth it. (my opinion only.)
TEN
Sad, very sad that we are not going to organically fly these cities but times are changing and with this Management team expect more outsourcing. Yes, we will reward our shareholders and we will get a Profit Sharing check which after withholdings is not worth it. (my opinion only.)
TEN
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02-06-2018 | 08:52 PM
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You need to be an adult and do your own research. Funny how United has the same 5th freedom rights and they aren't pulling out. NWA didn't just fly whales there, they flew 757's all over Japan, flew in and out of KIX and NGO. It wasn't just NRT. The Japanese used to think NWA was a japanese national carrier.
02-07-2018 | 03:37 AM
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You need to be an adult and do your own research. Funny how United has the same 5th freedom rights and they aren't pulling out. NWA didn't just fly whales there, they flew 757's all over Japan, flew in and out of KIX and NGO. It wasn't just NRT. The Japanese used to think NWA was a japanese national carrier.
The day the Japanese made HND a international airport the NRT hub was in trouble. HND is night and day the preferred gateway to Tokyo. Without the ability to profitably fly a substantial number of flights into NRT from the US you can’t sustain a hub.
In this business things are always changing. You either adapt or perish.
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02-07-2018 | 05:03 AM
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Wouldn't they blame the more central airport and the hometown airline flying their own routes? My understanding is we only had this massive Narita operation from the political climate that existed over there many decades ago. Is that incorrect? I struggle to see any way at all that we wouldn't eventually lose the in-region foothold in NRT. I mean, 747's are cool and all, but I feel like a lot of people are failing to ask themselves what it looks like the the Japanese. Isn't NAI trying to establish a hub at Providence or something?
02-07-2018 | 05:55 AM
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After Narita was built what was Haneda and what were the restrictions? Hint, all the major international players were forced to move to Narita. In 2010 Haneda was reopened to anyone who could get slots for any international flights and a reverse migration started.
02-07-2018 | 06:22 AM
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Time always changes everything. This is no exception. It stinks to lose routes that many people have enjoyed for decades.
We are making rediculous money as a company now, times are good. What happens if an economic downturn happens, or if someone hits the wrong button in North Korea and basically shuts down the pacific overnight? All of these routes would be gone instantly and Delta would absorb all of the blow.
I’m one of those ones who is in the middle where I think joint ventures are helpful to our long term stability but I’m also nervous as to their long term effect on us, mainly the aeromexico and west jet ones.
If the company wants to set up hubs in icn and pvg and fly only to those points while dumping nrt there really is not much we can do, time will tell if it was a good plan or not.
We are making rediculous money as a company now, times are good. What happens if an economic downturn happens, or if someone hits the wrong button in North Korea and basically shuts down the pacific overnight? All of these routes would be gone instantly and Delta would absorb all of the blow.
I’m one of those ones who is in the middle where I think joint ventures are helpful to our long term stability but I’m also nervous as to their long term effect on us, mainly the aeromexico and west jet ones.
If the company wants to set up hubs in icn and pvg and fly only to those points while dumping nrt there really is not much we can do, time will tell if it was a good plan or not.
