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Herkflyr 02-25-2018 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2537160)
I believe that at some point it was considered ("it" being Q trips automatically being posted as Swapboard pickups). Whether it was part of some negotiations, or perhaps some LEC resolution, I just don't know. But it was never implemented.



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gredenko 02-26-2018 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2537154)
When I was an FO I flew with CA’s who didn’t even know the Swapboard existed.

I just flew with a guy who didn't know what the C Series was. 82%!

TED74 02-26-2018 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by gredenko (Post 2538099)
I just flew with a guy who didn't know what the C Series was. 82%!

This is a timely reminder that I'm doing it all wrong... time to give these boards a break!

full of luv 02-26-2018 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2537160)
I believe that at some point it was considered. Whether it was part of some negotiations, or perhaps some LEC resolution, I just don't know. But it was never implemented.

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And to follow up, this is key if you really want to get rid of that trip because pilots who love to fly can pickup swap board trips above the open time limit, but if it's only listed in open time as a "q" trip, they have to be under the pickup limit to get it or be able to swap with pot with a trip that doesn't touch the reserve limited days.

Happy giving!

vyperdriver 02-27-2018 01:51 PM

To bad I can't swap my month of reserve for a crappy line!

FL370esq 02-27-2018 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by vyperdriver (Post 2538739)
To bad I can't swap my month of reserve for a crappy line!

Bring back touching trips and that'll open up SRLs and Power Move-Ups and it will all be good. 😁

NuGuy 02-27-2018 02:41 PM

A couple non-exact answers here...to paraphrase:

There are two separate ways to drop a trip (without considering APDs/IVDs).

One is via a Personal Drop. After you put in your request, when the PCS runs, if the reserve coverage allows it, boom, the trip is gone. It's all automated.

If the reserve coverage doesn't allow it, it falls into open flying to let someone pick it up. It becomes a "qualified" or Q trip because if someone wants to swap-with-the-pot, the rules are different than for a normal open time trip. If someone wants to pick it up, they have to be under the white slip limit.

This is the important part...your request will run on every PCS cycle until it hits the expiration time you put in. Even if the day(s) are showing below the reserves required, leave the request in, because there is always some flux in the reserve levels when the PCS runs. It might be good when it gets to your request.

The swap board is entirely separate and is not connected to the PCS system. If you want to drop a trip via the SB, you have to put it there separately. The bonus is pilots can pick up off the SB no matter their credit (no limit), so you'll have more luck getting rid of a trip there, but unlike the PCS, it's not automated, and you have to roll the dice someone wants to pick it up.

For the highest chances of dropping the trip, you want to put in a PD AND list the trip as a drop on the SB.

Another hint: you can't PD trips for the subsequent month until the next month's PCS cycles start, which is the 20th of the current month.

You can list trips on the SB as soon as they're loaded into DBMS a couple days after the PBS awards. It gives you a 5-6 day head start.

If you REALLY need out of a trip, you can use APDs or IVDs, but that's a whole other thread.

Nu

GogglesPisano 02-27-2018 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 2538766)
A couple non-exact answers here...to paraphrase:

There are two separate ways to drop a trip (without considering APDs/IVDs).

One is via a Personal Drop. After you put in your request, when the PCS runs, if the reserve coverage allows it, boom, the trip is gone. It's all automated.

If the reserve coverage doesn't allow it, it falls into open flying to let someone pick it up. It becomes a "qualified" or Q trip because if someone wants to swap-with-the-pot, the rules are different than for a normal open time trip. If someone wants to pick it up, they have to be under the white slip limit.

This is the important part...your request will run on every PCS cycle until it hits the expiration time you put in. Even if the day(s) are showing below the reserves required, leave the request in, because there is always some flux in the reserve levels when the PCS runs. It might be good when it gets to your request.

The swap board is entirely separate and is not connected to the PCS system. If you want to drop a trip via the SB, you have to put it there separately. The bonus is pilots can pick up off the SB no matter their credit (no limit), so you'll have more luck getting rid of a trip there, but unlike the PCS, it's not automated, and you have to roll the dice someone wants to pick it up.

For the highest chances of dropping the trip, you want to put in a PD AND list the trip as a drop on the SB.

Another hint: you can't PD trips for the subsequent month until the next month's PCS cycles start, which is the 20th of the current month.

You can list trips on the SB as soon as they're loaded into DBMS a couple days after the PBS awards. It gives you a 5-6 day head start.

If you REALLY need out of a trip, you can use APDs or IVDs, but that's a whole other thread.

Nu

And with this, all questions are answered. Perfect.


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