Originally Posted by qball
(Post 2580122)
This thread unofficially changed to “The Underwhelming MD 11” or
“Even More Underwhelming MD Engineering” Scoop :D |
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 2580266)
Lets not give Boeing a pass on the 737-900. Hey lets stretch this baby and lower the approach speed - what could possibly go wrong? Oh yeah, lets not plan on climbing above 33,000 if your heavy and its warm out.
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The Harry Stonecipher Effect! That's why they called it McBoeing for years!
Originally Posted by qball
(Post 2580309)
Lots of MD stretch and pull influence coming in to the Big B.
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Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 2580266)
Lets not give Boeing a pass on the 737-900. Hey lets stretch this baby and lower the approach speed - what could possibly go wrong? Oh yeah, lets not plan on climbing above 33,000 if your heavy and its warm out.
Scoop :D |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 2579852)
The biggest landing mistake you could make in that thing was to get a little slow below 100' and then lower the nose to try to get the speed back, then try to flare. That would guarantee you a hard landing! That, and pulling the power off too soon in the flare.
It just didn't have enough wing to give you much ground effect/float in the flare, a lot like a 727. Some guys would keep the power up on 1+3, and just pull back #2 in the flare, which would also pitch the nose up just a little bit and you could still push 1+3 up if you needed some last second airspeed. It and the MD88 are just a DC10 and a DC9 that have been stretched and over-weighted on the same -too short- wing, oh, and had an FMS shoved up their butts too! Is it any wonder they ain't quite right?:eek::D |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 2580411)
Timber puts it succinctly: They're old and overweight with technology shoved up their butts.
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Originally Posted by cynicalaviator
(Post 2580457)
I'm a bit late to the party as the discussion has already drifted from the original topic but after I read about our 350's having performance issues, I asked around on another discussion board and several 350 pilots told me the airplane performed well and as advertised. Only the first 3 350-900 were overweight and even those were fixed before delivery. Lax-Syd is under the advertised range for the 350-900 (so is atl-Jnb) and the figures published by Airbus imply a cabin with 325 seats and I believe we only have 306 seats. Lastly, I heard from a well informed person on the 4th floor that we need to (and we apparently will) purchase some sort of unlocking software from Airbus and we will then be able to connect the dots as desired/expected. So it appears that this is the issue with our airplanes.
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 2580411)
They're old and overweight with technology shoved up their butts.
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
(Post 2580502)
That’s a terrible thing to say about senior pilots! :D
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
(Post 2580502)
That’s a terrible thing to say about senior pilots! :D
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