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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
(Post 2590717)
Think of all the jobs and advancement we could create if the monthly cap was 65 ! And NO flying above !!
Yea, that's the ticket ..."we need to protect us from ourselves" ! "It will help more pilots therefore, it must be good"! "Free market be damned...socialism for all" !! "Equal pay for all pilots"!! "I don't want to work any more", therefore I WILL try to restrict you from working more so that I can feather my nest with no extra effort due to more rapid progression, and restrict your unbridled ambition to seek the bestest for your family thru extra work. "Get the placards out let's march in true union fashion.....get the inflatable rat" |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2590697)
Vacation should also be pay and credit!
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
(Post 2590717)
Think of all the jobs and advancement we could create if the monthly cap was 65 ! And NO flying above !!
Yea, that's the ticket ..."we need to protect us from ourselves" ! "It will help more pilots therefore, it must be good"! "Free market be damned...socialism for all" !! "Equal pay for all pilots"!! "I don't want to work any more", therefore I WILL try to restrict you from working more so that I can feather my nest with no extra effort due to more rapid progression, and restrict your unbridled ambition to seek the bestest for your family thru extra work. "Get the placards out let's march in true union fashion.....get the inflatable rat" I’m not against having a fair pick up limit. If you think the ALV plus 15 is too low, fine. But the limit should be the limit. There should not be loopholes around it. |
Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
(Post 2590717)
Think of all the jobs and advancement we could create if the monthly cap was 65 ! And NO flying above !!
Yea, that's the ticket ..."we need to protect us from ourselves" ! "It will help more pilots therefore, it must be good"! "Free market be damned...socialism for all" !! "Equal pay for all pilots"!! "I don't want to work any more", therefore I WILL try to restrict you from working more so that I can feather my nest with no extra effort due to more rapid progression, and restrict your unbridled ambition to seek the bestest for your family thru extra work. "Get the placards out let's march in true union fashion.....get the inflatable rat" |
You misunderstand,
This in not against the union at all. In fact it is the opposite. I fully support the union and the collective bargaining agreement that was membership ratified....You know , the one that has allowed us to fly back vacation and swap with the pot above ALV+15. It has been the status quo (because it has been in effect since around PBS intro....so a lot of years) for a long, long time. So, if the membership wants to tweak provisions that materially effects bidding seniority, I have no problem....just allow at least 2 years prior to implementation so I can bid to a category that pays much more hourly because my category super seniority will be worth much less. I'm always thankful that there is a way for me to easily dump a trip on the swap board when there isn't reserve coverage, as well as the ability to pick a trip up The bit about the union is in reference to bygone era's (stories from my dad) where the employees would go down to the union hall and get all spooled up and then take a strike vote based on emotion and beer....you know...kinda like the mindless drivel and angst about the union "studying", "exploring" ways to increase retirement income and then it gets bastardized into something unrecognizable here on the forum. My union would be negligent NOT to at least explore opportunities for more and present them to us in an impartial manner. |
Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
(Post 2590717)
Think of all the jobs and advancement we could create if the monthly cap was 65 ! And NO flying above !!
Yea, that's the ticket ..."we need to protect us from ourselves" ! "It will help more pilots therefore, it must be good"! "Free market be damned...socialism for all" !! "Equal pay for all pilots"!! "I don't want to work any more", therefore I WILL try to restrict you from working more so that I can feather my nest with no extra effort due to more rapid progression, and restrict your unbridled ambition to seek the bestest for your family thru extra work. "Get the placards out let's march in true union fashion.....get the inflatable rat" |
Originally Posted by dodgerk
(Post 2590712)
I’ve heard this a lot but I don’t know what it means. Can someone please explain?
I never pick up additional flying so I’m lost on these nuances. Credit....you don't get credit so you can WS those hours back and increase your pay...see above!:cool: example...80 hours cap....25 hours vacation...55 hours credit/80 hours pay....pick up 25 more hours...get paid 105:eek: |
Originally Posted by Piklepausepull
(Post 2591497)
Pay...you get paid for your vacation:D
Credit....you don't get credit so you can WS those hours back and increase your pay...see above!:cool: example...80 hours cap....25 hours vacation...55 hours credit/80 hours pay....pick up 25 more hours...get paid 105:eek: |
Originally Posted by FlyZ
(Post 2590641)
What about swap with the pot? If you have only a couple hours remaining in your WS Pickup limit, can you do a SWP into a trip that increases your credit by, say, 10 hours?
i.e. You have a 2 day. your P/U Max is 3 hours. You can swap your 2 day for a 5 day and increase your pay by 15:45 even though you MAX P/U was only 3hrs because there is no cap on Swap with the pot. |
Originally Posted by dodgerk
(Post 2591535)
Ah got it, thanks. That sounds like a lot of work.
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