Exactly right, I wonder what he thinks now.

All fair points guys. No Im not new. I spent 10 yers at the regionals and I know what a crappy contract is and what 0 movement is and fear of furlough. I know first hand what it feels like. Im not at all oblivious to how that second officer didn't understand what you were eluding to by his desire to fly more could cost jobs. I simply am stating that I wasn't aware that our goal was to ask for contract negotiations simply under the premise that we can grow the list. If I wanted to make your argument I would be advocating for no ability to pick up any trips, white, yellow or green and demand more staffing. I hope you at least see how absurd that is. I don't believe that my desire to fly within my legal perimeters is asking too much. I don't do it often but when I do I should be able to if legal, is all I am stating. I will end by stating I also see your points, and even though it seems as I don't agree I would be willing to bet we have similar views on most. However In this very specific case I made is where I disagree.

You are stating you want the ability to fly to FAR’s. I suspect would cost at least 1500 jobs. It will delay all your upgrades including making Captain for years.

And effectively pull the ladder up behind you. The most noble of greedy intentions.

Yes I am stating that, or maybe making that also have a “max pickup limt, to say 90 hours. I again won’t entirely disagree with your point Sailing but I also believe that I should be able to fly within my legal FAR’s to some extent. Like I said in my last post, if we got together over some beers you would find I agree with you a lot more on other issues than this particular post would seem but in this case we disagree, and That’s ok.

FAR limits are tangential to the PWA. Our manning is determined and controlled by credit hours which may/may not be directly tied to block hours, hence the existence/benefit of a 5+15 ADG, 1:2 duty rigs and 1:3.5 trip rigs.

As a union, we have agreed that credit is king. In your case, you want to ignore the benefit of the credit which got you to the pick-up limit but then want to rely solely on FAR block limits to continue to receive pay. Would you rather fly two one-day trips for only 2.5 hours of block each day (where maybe you fly 1.3 somewhere, sit for 4+58 then fly a 1.2 back) rather than a single one-day that has a 5:15 ADG? In essence, that is what you are saying. I would prefer to work smarter, not harder...but that's me.

That’s not at all what I am suggesting. Im with you work smart not hard. I am asy saying that for the LIMIT make actual and projected flight time up to a limit be the deciding factor not credit. I’m at ~ 70 hours of actual this month and getting paid for almost 86. That’s awesome and I’m not going to complain one bit. I just see it differently.thats all.

Dorn,

Look at it this way. If a lot of the guys senior to you jumped from 70 hours block to say 85 hours block this month - how much do you think would have been left for you?

There are pros of eliminating caps but there are also cons.

Scoop

Scoop,

That would be their right to do so. Seniority should have its perks.

Who hacked SF's account? Great post.