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Old 07-16-2018 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Tailhookah
It was said many years ago when the refinery was bought that it wasn’t just going to benefit Delta but most others also. The main benefit was lowering and smoothing the crack spread which had been out of control. Trainer was to add stability to the jet fuel market. Which it has. It has also allowed Delta to partially eliminate that in our plan. It has done that while turning a profit. Note the last line in the article.

I am a pilot. Not an airline exec. But even I can see that Trainer has been a success.
I bet we would not do it over again given the choice. We are no where close to payback on the total investment. They hired consultants last year to see about getting rid of it. Note the last line in the article.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-d...-idUSKBN16L24H

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Old 07-16-2018 | 07:51 AM
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GOL isn’t cutting flying. In fact...

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/farnborough-gol-grows-737-max-orderbook-450303/

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Old 07-16-2018 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
note the last line in the article.
march 14, 2017
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Old 07-16-2018 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Okay it pays less? How about that?

You want your LGBp, I want my 319neos, neither is happening. But oh well.
It's funny lookin

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Old 07-16-2018 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
It's funny lookin





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Old 07-16-2018 | 12:52 PM
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The plant’s manager told employees last year that refinery losses were offset by savings for the airline in jet fuel prices, saying the company was going to continue to maximize jet fuel production in the New York market to keep pressure on prices.

“This negatively impacts our refinery economics, but greatly helps reduce Delta’s fuel cost,” refinery manager Jeff Warmann wrote then.
Only the bean counters know the real story. But the quote above makes my argument correct. But there are also quotes that break it down. Time will tell. How much it’s reduced the crack spread I think is the key. How much? Ask the bean counters.
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Old 07-16-2018 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tailhookah
Only the bean counters know the real story. But the quote above makes my argument correct. But there are also quotes that break it down. Time will tell. How much it’s reduced the crack spread I think is the key. How much? Ask the bean counters.
The catch is that it’s reducing everyone’s fuel cost but Delta assumes all the liability, especially environmental. Employees at the plant were and are concerned Delta may shut it down.
I do find it interesting that pilots who will argue that virtually every management statement is a outright lie or at best a half truth will take every management comment on the refinery as gospel. Especially considering admitting it was a mistake reflects negatively on the management team.
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Old 07-16-2018 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
It's funny lookin

Yeah well you’re funny, funny lookin!
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Old 07-16-2018 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The catch is that it’s reducing everyone’s fuel cost but Delta assumes all the liability, especially environmental. Employees at the plant were and are concerned Delta may shut it down.
I do find it interesting that pilots who will argue that virtually every management statement is a outright lie or at best a half truth will take every management comment on the refinery as gospel. Especially considering admitting it was a mistake reflects negatively on the management team.
Excellent. You nailed it.
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Old 07-17-2018 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
In the past yes, but this cycle is due to impending sanctions, which, after Congress flips, will be off the table.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-rouhani-trump

The Saudi's need to pump 12.5m/bbl, when their record is 10.7m.
LOL if Iran did that, they'd be leveled. Empty threat.
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