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sailingfun 10-13-2018 01:03 AM
Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2690383)
This is based on there assumption that there is enough extra, unclaimed contract money out there to keep all other things equal while providing this rising pay floor. It also ignores the extremely obvious disincentive for smaller airframes. Not only would this massively pressure the 100 seat range, but ripple all across the entire fleet. We're already experiencing operational pressure (gates, slots, ramp space, even pilot supply) to up gauge airframes; now we would add additional cost pressures. More seats per plane = less pilots. So much for the "raise".
Listen to Ed’s last video on the future fleet. Upsizing is already underway and will be increasing.

JamesBond 10-13-2018 07:53 AM
Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 2689979)
Believe it or not, I'm not trying to do anything other than understand what's different between years ago and present. You implied there is a major difference with regards to upgrades, and their timing now vs your younger years.
I think.. again.. jmho... is that Delta has been hiring a lot in the most recent years, and the 'growth' has all been at the bottom end. After I got hired, we continued to hire for 10 months, then furloughed everybody back to the point where I had 235 guys below me. For almost 6 years. I couldn't even hold M88 FO. The 767 was a shining orb out in the ether somewhere, and upgrading was a pipe dream.

The reasons are myriad. **** poor management, bad economy, too much 'competition' yada yada yada. Perfect storm. You have none of that now.

JamesBond 10-13-2018 07:55 AM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2690592)
Listen to Ed’s last video on the future fleet. Upsizing is already underway and will be increasing.
Albeit barely noticeable, but it will be happening. And of course upsizing will depend on one's perspective. If you are an RJ driver, you will definitely notice it. Guys at my level, notsomuch.

sailingfun 10-13-2018 09:49 AM
Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2690675)
Albeit barely noticeable, but it will be happening. And of course upsizing will depend on one's perspective. If you are an RJ driver, you will definitely notice it. Guys at my level, notsomuch.
At the MD88 level it will be extremely noticeable.

JamesBond 10-13-2018 10:22 AM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2690724)
At the MD88 level it will be extremely noticeable.
I'm thrilled.

gloopy 10-13-2018 10:41 AM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2690592)
Listen to Ed’s last video on the future fleet. Upsizing is already underway and will be increasing.
Right, that's my point. So why should we throw fuel on the fire?

tomgoodman 10-13-2018 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2690724)
At the MD88 level it will be extremely noticeable.
Boeing will respond with the “Triple Dog”. :D

https://goo.gl/images/GVJfLv

captkdobbs 10-19-2018 10:03 AM
Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 2690802)
Boeing will respond with the “Triple Dog”. :D

https://goo.gl/images/GVJfLv
Add a fuselage plug to the 757-300 and what do you get? :D

Mesabah 10-19-2018 11:04 AM
Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2690675)
Albeit barely noticeable, but it will be happening. And of course upsizing will depend on one's perspective. If you are an RJ driver, you will definitely notice it. Guys at my level, notsomuch.
What does Delta do with all the 55 seater slots they own on the east coast, do they operate the CRJ 700 with 55 seats? You guys own ~100 per day at LGA alone, that's a massive amount of market share, and most slots, under the FAR 93.123 exception, are used for mainline aircraft.

JamesBond 10-19-2018 01:13 PM
Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2694345)
What does Delta do with all the 55 seater slots they own on the east coast, do they operate the CRJ 700 with 55 seats? You guys own ~100 per day at LGA alone, that's a massive amount of market share, and most slots, under the FAR 93.123 exception, are used for mainline aircraft.
Well first of all I don't gaf about the small airplanes below mainline. They aren't costing us any jobs at all right now. I sincerely hope the pilot group as a whole has learned that the RJ experiment has been doomed to fail for quite some time and will not waste one copper penny in negotiating it away. It is a dead man walking. DAL has already scaled back far more than either of our competitors. The last I heard, we have over 100 fewer RJs under our umbrella than UAL, and 150 fewer than AAL. I guess there will always be some of that out there, but it's significance is waning with each passing day. But more to the point, when the lift necessitates it - and I assume you are referring to LGA slots - those airplanes will get bigger.


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