From ALPA National to DL Management?
 

Looks like RD is going straight from Exec Administrator at National into a management position at DL.

Discuss.

Heard he's going to be the companies scope negotiator. I doubt it has anything to do with his inside knowledge of ALPA's scope plans or anything.

I hope this is true, the incest will revitalize DPA and the associated hard line stance. Can we put him on executive inactive right now? He obviously isn't working for the pilots, but himself. Absolutely disgusting! He's a former Moak era negotiator and is intimately knowledgeable about the cracks in our PWA.

I'll bet it has a lot to do with this. Look who the ALPA rep is.

https://centreforaviation.com/analys...tectionism-226

Can I buy a vowel?

I'm shocked if ALPA national positions don't have some sort of no-compete clause. Something like this will definitely give new life to DPA.

I’m sure he just got hired to enhance pilot-management cooperation on the upcoming contract.....🙄

LOL. I had to use google. Maybe this!!?? R. Dominguez



That's my guess.

Well, that secret didn't take long to hit APC.

When our Scope Chairman stated the MEC Admin / negotiators were opening scope discussions with the company on a consolidated JV agreement which would maybe trade regional protections for a global balance my first two thoughts were, we already have that in Section 1 R. (global production balance) and 1 P. 5. (global block hour floor) and my third thought was to call Rick Dominguez. He has more background and experience with the actual creation of our JV scope language than most anyone else.

When I reached out, the response was that he had a new job that nobody could talk about, ... and here we are.

Captain Rick Dominguez's responsibilities, as I understand them, will not be related to negotiations with the association. It makes sense that management would keep him well away from the table for now. However, he is only a phone call away.

... and it might even be a good thing if Capt. Dominguez was to get involved. He knows how to structure JV agreements with management and labor. He is a very bright and capable man. In my experience, he has been very good for the Delta pilots.

The "reader's digest" version of my letter to our Reps was:
· Align our PWA with the company’s commercial agreements with JV partners. Our flying should match the schedules found in the commercial agreements between the partners, then, for redundancy …
· Include revenue triggers as a floor. For example, if we see that 50% of an agreement’s total revenues (including non-operating revenues) originate from a partner airline, we should seek a 50% share of flying from that agreement, and finally
· Measure the results in jobs. When these negotiations are announced to pilots, pleasure use metrics pilots can understand

Yup. He's the top JV and foriegn ownership guy at ALPA. If nothing else this buys him away from our advocacy and a potential brain drain on the area we need to defend most.

Agreed on both accounts. Our TA better be a good, or DPA will come back in force. Going from being an advocate for the pilots to a MIP position has to just feel dirty. As always, money talks.

This should surprise none of us. Right from the Moak playbook.

Maybe this is the best thing that could have happened to us. Now, more than ever, we need the best job protection (SCOPE) language ever crafted.

Immediate penalties for even a single day of noncompliance. Conrcrete examples in the contract (PWA).

At the end of the day, we hold all the cards. MEMRAT.

There is going to be a full court press to outsource more international flying. It is not going to affect me, but you better believe I will vote NO for anything that does not have this new language.

We severely dropped the ball with the RJs. Severely.

Let’s not repeat our historic mistake.

Each and every year our executives are returning 70% of free cash flow to our shareholders. Approximately $4 Billion annually.

This is money they say they simply can’t spend.

No excuse not to make major gains across the board in scope, retirement, medical, work rules and pay.

Given this level of profitability, every Delta pilot must retire with the equivalent of a 60% FAE defined benefit plan.

The DPA has never been a scope answer for one obvious problem ....

Today ALPA is an exclusive agent at the table with management. There are only two seats, one is owned by the Delta pilots, the other is owned by management.

If we were to leave ALPA, we would leave ALPA in it's chair to represent the regional pilots and we would pull a new chair up to the table. It could be quite an unattractive threesome. A "Devils Triangle" might be fun if your name rhymes with Brett Had-too- much, but I'm pretty sure who everyone else at the table will be trying to screw if we get involved in such a thing.

Didn't you get some FPL from this administration? Might want to pick up the phone and call your sponsors to see if you want to take a position on this. My understanding is (our/the) administration is 100% behind this negotiation.

If I've misidentified you, my bad.

.... without the data or any idea what they are thinking, I'm waiting for something objective before taking any position.

I don't disagree with you and wasn't a fan of DPA. I just think think that this, coupled with a crappy TA, has a ingredients for a DPA resurgence.

Think the elected Reps are 2 years.

In the wayback they did the same thing with Greenberg, nuthin' new.:rolleyes:

Easier, smarter and faster to just vote new Reps in ALPA.

After the rejected TA most of the new Reps and Committee personnel were DPA supporters. Even our MEC Chair, John Malone, had played footsie with them. Quite a few remain.

Especially in John's case, he did a good job and benefitted the Delta pilots.

Of course you think this is good. Money talks, he will be bought. This is not good and is unethical as can be.
Also Han Solo there is no such non compete. This is embarrassing.

Don't think this is good. It would be much better if he were on our side of the table. He probably would be on our side of the table had we been able to keep our stuff together at ALPA National's BOD meeting or if we had not gotten really wild with some of our choices for Reps. There is no politically viable way for him to work for us.

Reality check, we have had 5 scope Chairmen in less than two years (assuming Brent gets replaced). We just had a negotiator resign. We lack the political stability and discipline to develop our team properly.

Just flying the line.

I have always advocated a 5 year break from ALPA to management. Obviously that is not going to happen. We get used to by some who will sell their soul for money.

At the end of the day, we have membership ratification. We have proven we have a limit with the rejection of the shameless TA1.

Hopefully we make the major gains across the board warranted by this level of profitability created by the Delta pilots billions in sacrifices and loss of retirement.

Otherwise, we have nothing to fear by voting No.

We will never have an agreement that does not include full retro pay.

That should be illegal. There should be a 5-yr no conflict clause when you leave ALPA as an Exec Administrator.

Maybe if we beg we can get Tom Dilbeck back.

This is definitely not new, but it is definitely not right, either. Everyone in an ALPA position should be subject to a non-compete. I'd make it 5 years minimum. This is why DPA came to be, accountability and transparency. I don't know if it will continue but it's obvious to me we need a watchdog/challenger.

Another reason I HATE ALPA!!

I like the ALPA national EA. He’s articulate, intelligent, and given many years to ALPA. If it’s true he’s gone to the company side for scope, I’m glad it’s him and not a pilot-hater lawyer. Maybe he can explain to his new bosses our positions on JVs.
Maybe he would try to make progress and get a mutually happy deal for both the company and us.
If the company didn’t want to make progress, they could have left his new position vacant.

He prefers flying airplanes & his family. He would assist Delta pilots as asked as a volunteer but has no, zero, interest in working for the association.

Fixed it for you

What’s so bad about going back to flying airplanes for a paycheck?

Like the scope deal we have now?

Like the billions and billions and billions they wasted on RJs?

I think we can do without that.

From what I am hearing Rick Dominguez will be managing partner relationships and NOT involved in negotiations.

Flying airplanes is a much better career, MHO

According to whom? I haven’t been following too closely to our workup to negotiations, but I KNOW that one of the top items on our agenda is going to be JV scope that is thus far unresolved....Korean and Aeromexico.

Now, our most educated guy, has been hired away from us by management, before negotiations, and “There’s nothing to see here”?

Come on, Bar. I hope you don’t believe that he will not be involved in negotiations. He might not be at the table, but he will be helping them build their case.

We can criticize, but hope he views his new gig as “for all of Delta” and doesn’t forget the fact that he is a pilot in the roots. Sometimes it works out, other times it becomes a new term of blasphemy. The fact that the “scope guy” is going to the company side, but not on the company negotiating side may be helpful. In the end, we all get a vote of “NO” if it’s bad. The company may actually want a real SME on hand for an offer to start on the same page, for once. Hey, it could happen that the company “understands” JV and codeshare to work on the same playing field. Maybe it’s not the worst scenario. Glass half full. In 6 months it may be “they understand” or could be “dig in for war”. Only time will tell. The fact that the company picked someone with said experience shows that they understand the pilots have issue with section 1. How they respond will show the resolve. Being that JV/scope is such a big issue, I want to go 51/49 that the company wants a pilot to really say “here’s the reality, before you try to deal”. Only time will tell.

Who pays his salary and MIP bonus? That is where his loyalty will ultimately lie. SCOPE just got 10X more important and more complicated. Bottom line needs to be more for DAL pilots not less. Keep that simple concept in mind when they start dazzling us with charts and language. Be prepared to say no if your career has more than 5 years left. And with 67+ and the shortage beware that 5 years isn't that long.

They have already used the terms global and franchise in investor communications. If you think this is all falling sky, you need a reality check. The next push will be to liberalize SCOPE and expand the brand. That means putting Delta in control of these companies and eventually them flying the widget.

He may have intricate knowledge but why does everybody assume he will be against us? If someone has to negotiate on the other side of the table who better than someone who comes from our group? I can't imagine some tricky business lawyer would be better to have across from us.

When SD left management someone here suggested we hire him as one of our negotiators. While it appears he has other duties in his future, had we hired him his responsibility would've been to us, not the company. The same can be said for any ALPA exec hired by management, they owe their loyalty to their employer. He will most certainly use his knowledge in a manner beneficial to the company. It's possible that somebody like this will be able to understand both sides of an argument and help broker a mutually agreeable deal but his loyalties will and should remain on the side of his employer.

So maybe he’s fooled management and he’s really fighting for us?

Really?

Has he completed his LMS "Rules of the Road" training? 😁

Sources as diverse as Tim O'Malleys fmr Strategic Planning Chair to Sham Ally on Chit Chat.

It is ironic to watch the MEC who fired Tim Canoll act all bent when his EA finds another gig.

The MEC Admin could take a lesson from Delta management who finds talent (even from a labor union) and grabs it to improve their product.

In contrast, our MEC Admin is now staffed by politicians and committee folks have to become political themselves and get voted on. This last MEC broke the process of even staffing the administration. Our MEC Admin is not identifying the best and the brightest, training and promoting them.

If we are worried that Rick Dominguez, with his big brain and 20 years of relevant experience are going to kick our asses, then why have we had 5 scope Chairmen in two years? (four of whom had nearly zero experience in any position prior to becoming Chairmen and two of whom immediately ran for another office?)

Ah Scope, the most (IMO) misunderstood contract language by the majority of the pilot group due to its complexity and the ability of the sight of a foreign 787 to turn a Widget pilot emotional.

As evidenced by Delta's record hiring over the past few years and the shift of Concourse C and D in ATL from RJ land to a 717 hub, our Scope language is strong. Delta has built a strong, robust domestic network and will leverage that into international growth over the next several years since the domestic network has saturated.

I believe our Scope protections are sufficient as is but we should seek improvements that guarantee more Delta growth as international grows before a JV agreement(IE more guaranteed growth with AeroMexico JV even without an LOA). The big question is how to craft that complex language which would require someone very bright. If they have RD on their side, we will need to put politics aside and bring an experienced Scope hammer like TD, RS, or a bright mind like RH.

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