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01-15-2019 | 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GliderCFI

Thanks for the obvious. But in Feb....a pretty easy month....A awards would typically be published...

As sailing said, they are not working on them over the weekend. Plus with the ATL717 bid closing yesterday, I am not shocked they have not been piblished yet.

01-15-2019 | 08:56 AM

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Interesting stuff. I'm a bit cranky anyway after having my 17 hour bid-for and awarded layover at home converted to a short night somewhere else with a double DH through ATL. 7 hours total deadheading with nothing better than 757 economy. Naturally I'm annoyed today.

I'm officially 1 for 4 on awarded layovers at home remaining on my schedule. I'm not telling them where I live anymore.

01-15-2019 | 09:07 AM

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It does get old playing the waiting game every month. I wonder if it takes 4 or 5 days for awards to get published at UAL or AAL too. Seems like it shouldn't take more than a few hours.

01-15-2019 | 09:10 AM

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It does get old playing the waiting game every month. I wonder if it takes 4 or 5 days for awards to get published at UAL or AAL too. Seems like it shouldn't take more than a few hours.

The 17th at 1800 is their contractual requirement. Anything ahead of that is icing on the cake.

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01-15-2019 | 09:14 AM

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The 17th at 1800 is their contractual requirement. Anything ahead of that is icing on the cake.

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Yup, Only thing we can do is ask to change it in the contract. Which we should IMO.

01-15-2019 | 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Peoloto

Yup, Only thing we can do is ask to change it in the contract. Which we should IMO.

What are you willing to trade for it? I don't disagree with your sentiment but unless it's a freebie outside normal contract negotiations I'll just sit tight until the 17th if/when required.

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I'm much more interested in fixing this. Each and every RR should receive RR pay. Without having to call ALPA or wait months and months for adjudication.

01-15-2019 | 09:24 AM

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Maybe the possibility of a delay in the A220 certification is making them look harder at trying to cover that flying?

01-15-2019 | 09:31 AM

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And EVERY SINGLE DEADHEAD over 2 hours should be comfort+ at a minimum. Anything in economy should be 150% pay. And no middle seats ever unless it's Delta one. But I may be a bit partial, since I'm about twice the height the economy seat was designed for.

As for UAL, they probably do get lines faster. Consider this: their last vacancy bid had published mock awards EVERY BUSINESS DAY so guys could see what they could expect and make adjustments. They also are much more limited in how much crew resources can "adjust" what's awarded vs what's offered. Ours take days, are done by hand, and often reflect something totally different than the seats initially offered.

And yes I put all of that in the surveys a while back.

01-15-2019 | 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Han Solo

What are you willing to trade for it? I don't disagree with your sentiment but unless it's a freebie outside normal contract negotiations I'll just sit tight until the 17th if/when required.

Same.

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Originally Posted by RJ4LIFE

It does get old playing the waiting game every month. I wonder if it takes 4 or 5 days for awards to get published at UAL or AAL too. Seems like it shouldn't take more than a few hours.

UAL - Close on 12th. Capts due by 0001 on the 16th, FOs 0001 on the 18th
AAL - Close Noon on the 13th. Due by noon on the 16th.

01-15-2019 | 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

They are confident they can produce the awards quickly now and no longer work weekends. If the bids close Friday night they don’t start working them until Monday. It’s been this way for some time.

Bad data as usual... they have come out on saturdays and sundays in recent months.

There was one case around 2010 where they didn’t come out until after the deadline on the 17th.