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badflaps 02-13-2019 10:01 AM

Interesting arguments, Richard is now running a Co. without a dedicated work force and he is not getting much traction.

sailingfun 02-13-2019 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2762636)
I never said it was a bad thing, nor did I say Delta management is bad. I said it was an insult for management to reward itself with buybacks, when the employees were the reason for their success.

Why was Delta such a inept poor airline before RA took over? Did the employees get together and all decide to do a better job? Why did Delta have something like 24 years as the number 1 customer service airline and drop to near dead last after Ron Allen took over. Did all the employees simply decide to perform poorly?

badflaps 02-13-2019 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2763664)
Why was Delta such a inept poor airline before RA took over? Did the employees get together and all decide to do a better job? Why did Delta have something like 24 years as the number 1 customer service airline and drop to near dead last after Ron Allen took over. Did all the employees simply decide to perform poorly?

Any manning doc. says that V.P. of Personnel is not in the line of succession, however, maybe just this once.:eek:

Mesabah 02-13-2019 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2763664)
Why was Delta such a inept poor airline before RA took over? Did the employees get together and all decide to do a better job? Why did Delta have something like 24 years as the number 1 customer service airline and drop to near dead last after Ron Allen took over. Did all the employees simply decide to perform poorly?

Probably laying off your great staff in large numbers under the 7.5 program, and replacing them with temps had something to do with it.

notEnuf 02-14-2019 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2763739)
Probably laying off your great staff in large numbers under the 7.5 program, and replacing them with temps had something to do with it.

This. And when you go through bankruptcy the disgruntled are weeded out leaving the optimistic employees and they have been rewarded nicely and are pretty much happy and satisfied. Especially today.

sailingfun 02-14-2019 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2763739)
Probably laying off your great staff in large numbers under the 7.5 program, and replacing them with temps had something to do with it.

So your making my point! Would those not be management decisions?

Mesabah 02-14-2019 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2763902)
So your making my point! Would those not be management decisions?

The employees could have been salty in the wake of the bankruptcy, and the merger like during the bad times in the 90s.

Gunfighter 02-14-2019 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2763888)
This. And when you go through bankruptcy the disgruntled are weeded out leaving the optimistic employees and they have been rewarded nicely and are pretty much happy and satisfied. Especially today.

This is partially true. Having vacated a sinking ship in a different industry, many of the optimists fled for greener pastures. Often the optimists are the top performers and have good job prospects elsewhere, assuming they are not hamstrung by a seniority list like airline pilots.

Gunfighter 02-14-2019 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2763739)
Probably laying off your great staff in large numbers under the 7.5 program, and replacing them with temps had something to do with it.

Yes! Nothing like layoffs, temps and increased workload to improve morale. If you want your severance package, train your replacement on the way out.

Denny Crane 02-16-2019 09:05 AM

Hmmmmmmm. Interesting article. EB says Trainor made $100 million last year and Delta is NOT trying to sell it.

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...aYEUeSBZy2Y2t8

Denny


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