I pay my own way and I pay (probably) more than my 'fair' share. However, I don't mind giving a leg up. I DO mind paying health care for people that do nothing but sit on ass and smoke a carton of Marlboros everyday while watching their 55 inch Hi Def. I DO mind supporting octomom and 8 kids when she has no marketable skills other than getting pregnant.

Yeah

I've been at the check out at a grocery store when I was recently divorced and living paycheck to paycheck.

See a family unit with two carts. One full of food. But stuff I couldn't afford then. Steak. Lobster. Bags of fresh fruit.

Paid for with a SNAP card.

Second cart. Full of booze, junk food, and the guy gets four cartons of cigarettes. He pays cash.

I pay for my ground beef and potatoes. They are getting into a late model Cadillac SUV that has aftermarket rims that are worth more than my beat to crap pickup.

That was a fairly common sight at the grocery. I still see it once a month or so.

So yeah. I don't like paying for the allegedly destitute to eat better than I do while driving a new car.

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Ah, they myth of the welfare queen strikes again.

You must do all of this just to pick fights. No green slips available?

In 2017 the US spent 70 Billion on food stamps. About $212 per ever single person living in the US.

The US payed 315 Billion on interest alone in 2018.

Not sure how the welfare queens are bankrupting this country.

I’m sorry I mentioned that the welfare queen was a myth. Sincerely, I didn’t mean to ruin your worldview

I know people like that are infuriating, and there are definitely too many who abuse the system like this BUT I think the vast majority are good people who just need a little help. It's a shame the losers (like the family you mentioned) ruin it for everyone.

Okay, carry on. I'll stop being a naive, idealistic millennial :D

Is anyone else claiming tax exemption on their W4? I expect a pretty hefty refund from 2018 and expect the same for 2019. Pros and cons to doing this?

Exemption from withholding.

You may claim exemption from withholding for 2019 if both of the following apply.
• For 2018 you had a right to a refund of all federal income tax withheld because you had no tax liability, and
• For 2019 you expect a refund of all federal income tax withheld because you expect to have no tax liability.


I can’t see how anyone employed here would have zero tax liability

Exactly this. I worked the checkout at Kroger as a teenager. People used food stamps and / or a WIC card to pay for groceries. Then on a separate bill they would load up on booze and cigarettes. Happened everyday. It’s amazing what you learn what actually goes on in the real world, vice sitting at home watching MSNBC and formulating an opinion off that information.