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Old 02-03-2019 | 02:44 PM
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Anyone who has gone through the MIA sims for A320 school;

Is there a gouge or is the training logistics for MIA enough?

Is there a "paper tiger" to practice in, or are we stuck with these really small posters? Perhaps I just need a pair of "cheaters." -kargo
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Old 02-03-2019 | 03:14 PM
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I’ve never been big on paper tigers but the training is at an actual airbus facility. I’d guess there’s a static trainer somewhere in the building - I’d guess you’d be welcome to try it out. Otherwise I found the logistics info on the dlnet sufficient with the fact that the instructors stay at the same hotel and will touch base and give you a ride to and from the sim.
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Old 02-03-2019 | 03:15 PM
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I recall that the briefing rooms have a cockpit mock-up like the Atlanta briefing rooms. Not much outside, so you’d need a briefing room to practice.

I was set with the data on the fleet page. Each instructor contacted me prior to the event to coordinate picking me up for the event.

There aren’t a ton of bars and restaurants near the hotel. The hotel offers breakfast and heavy hors d’ouvres with beer and wine each evening. The Whole Foods has some decent food and there are a few restaurants, including a chain bbq place.

Running is industrial park running on busy streets. Small hotel gym.

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Old 02-03-2019 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Kargo
Anyone who has gone through the MIA sims for A320 school;

Is there a gouge or is the training logistics for MIA enough?

Is there a "paper tiger" to practice in, or are we stuck with these really small posters? Perhaps I just need a pair of "cheaters." -kargo
What equipment are you coming off of? I was on 73 as a new hire and then 320. To me, the 320 school was far easier as the flows are very straight forward and the overhead panel is far more intuitive. The paper tigers are probably enough to get the flows down.

Some may disagree, but that whole thing about how airbus designed the plane to be able to easily train crews in third world countries seems to be accurate to me.
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Old 02-03-2019 | 04:54 PM
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Thanks everyone. It sounds like most didn't make much use of the poster mock-ups.

4fans,
I would agree that the aircraft is pretty intuitively designed with simplistic operation in mind. I am coming off the M88. I guess I'm just used to learning the old fashioned way.
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Old 02-03-2019 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kargo
Thanks everyone. It sounds like most didn't make much use of the poster mock-ups.

4fans,
I would agree that the aircraft is pretty intuitively designed with simplistic operation in mind. I am coming off the M88. I guess I'm just used to learning the old fashioned way.
I actually love the posters of the cockpit panels. I would get some tape and tape them to a wall in their proper position. It would help me when I was reading and thinking "now where's that switch?" I would also use them to refer to when chair flying learning flows etc. To each their own.

Of course that was awhile ago for me but I did with the 330 panels in 2013.

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Old 02-04-2019 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Kargo
Anyone who has gone through the MIA sims for A320 school;

Is there a gouge or is the training logistics for MIA enough?

Is there a "paper tiger" to practice in, or are we stuck with these really small posters? Perhaps I just need a pair of "cheaters." -kargo
All of the procedures trainers will be in ATL. The only training that has taken place in MIA the past few years is the maneuvers training. So..if you are scheduled for MIA (which is likely if you are in initial), you'll have your 200 series (procedures/automation) in ATL, go to MIA for 300s (maneuvers), then return to ATL for 400 series (LOE). The main driver of this is that the sims in MIA have some switches that are backwards (Airbus makes "on is up," Delta's jets are "on is forward") and that the MIA sims do not have ACARS.
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Old 02-04-2019 | 06:44 AM
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I did training in MIA and I liked it.

Call the hotel when you land for a ride. They provide breakfast in the morning (unless you miss it due to your sim time) and happy hour in the evening. Also, plenty of restaurants.

The workout room is lame with a few treadmills, but you can use the one in the adjacent hotel which is much better. There is a decent pool and the weather is usually good. I was just there and swam - the water was warm.

Airbus facility is real nice and about 15 minute drive away. Instructors will contact you and/or meet you maybe a half hour before brief time in hotel lobby to drive you to facility.

I personally didn't need any mock ups. I was overwhelmed with the amount of information in the training section of the Deltanet and that was more than enough information for me.

I was new to Airbus and also feel that it's probably more intuitive than I thought it would be and overall the training was doable, however definitely different than the Boeings I had been flying.

I liked doing the training in MIA more than I would have if I would have been in ATL.

P.S. I agree they only do maneuvers training in MIA due to the sim differences.
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Old 02-04-2019 | 06:25 PM
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If you're studying for the esv and you find all of the high angle of attack protections or autothrust confusing then i have a suggestion.

Go in your iPad apple store and look for Airbus WIN app.

On that app go to Aircraft Systems > Flight Guidance > what about the use of autothrust.

Also aircraft systems > flight control > high AOA protection.

The systems are relatively easy, but there are two sticking points: there is stick shaker and the throttles dont move. So what does it do instead? Those videos help a lot.
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Old 02-04-2019 | 06:30 PM
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Thanks again Gang! I'll probably bring my posters with me and tape them on the hotel wall for reference. I'm guessing the paper tiger won't be super necessary for the maneuvers stuff, I just find it really nice to have. kargo
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