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Han Solo 02-28-2019 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by zippinbye (Post 2772424)
What is a non-qualifying injury? Sure, I guess there are injuries that might not impact your ability to walk a jet bridge, yank on a yoke or push a rudder pedal, but isn’t any physical injury and resultant need for medical care (i.e. going to the ER when you are scheduled to fly) a legit utilization of sick benefits? Let’s say my jigsaw jumped while working on a craft project and lacerated my abdomen. Non life threatening if treated properly, with zero impact on mobility, aside from a bit of pain sitting up. Sure, I could fly. But I don’t want to and I need to seek treatment. Is that not cause for a sick call?

Nonqualifying for preverification.

I'm like most men that I know -- I refuse to go to the doctor unless it's a bonafide emergency. If I'm going to spend my time-off in the waiting room of an urgent care on a Sunday then whatever happened to me ought to count for preverification.

Klondike Bear 02-28-2019 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by zippinbye (Post 2772424)
What is a non-qualifying injury? Sure, I guess there are injuries that might not impact your ability to walk a jet bridge, yank on a yoke or push a rudder pedal, but isn’t any physical injury and resultant need for medical care (i.e. going to the ER when you are scheduled to fly) a legit utilization of sick benefits? Let’s say my jigsaw jumped while working on a craft project and lacerated my abdomen. Non life threatening if treated properly, with zero impact on mobility, aside from a bit of pain sitting up. Sure, I could fly. But I don’t want to and I need to seek treatment. Is that not cause for a sick call?

I cut my finger off and was out for 6 weeks. Luckily it happened before the new contract because although there is no way I can fly with a sewed on finger it would be non-qualifying.

Hillbilly 03-01-2019 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by Klondike Bear (Post 2772477)
I cut my finger off and was out for 6 weeks. Luckily it happened before the new contract because although there is no way I can fly with a sewed on finger it would be non-qualifying.



It seems like two entirely separate concepts have gotten blended in this discussion. Ability to verify before hitting the triggers vs legitimate use of sick leave. While your finger might be “non-qualifying” and thus not eligible to be verified if you are below the verification triggers, it is absolutely 100% legitimate under the terms of the contract for you to use sick leave for it. You call in sick for it and get paid. If you are below the verification triggers, you can’t go ahead and verify the occurrence so that it doesn’t count in your lookback. I think that’s silly, but that’s the way it was written after initially being that nothing could ever be verified before hitting the triggers.

sailingfun 03-01-2019 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Klondike Bear (Post 2772477)
I cut my finger off and was out for 6 weeks. Luckily it happened before the new contract because although there is no way I can fly with a sewed on finger it would be non-qualifying.

Just call in sick and get paid.

Klondike Bear 03-02-2019 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2772770)
Just call in sick and get paid.

Yeah I did and it was no issue. My point is I wouldn’t have been able to send in a sick note. The next time I had any minor issue I’d have to go to the doctor.

sailingfun 03-02-2019 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by Klondike Bear (Post 2773193)
Yeah I did and it was no issue. My point is I wouldn’t have been able to send in a sick note. The next time I had any minor issue I’d have to go to the doctor.

Depends on how much sick leave you used in the last two years or if you consider fracturing a hand bone as happening. If your going to get a finger sown back on I suspect they admit you to the hospital even though you might not stay overnight so that could count also. I know someone who did some nice work with a chain saw and even though it did not meet the exemption rule they counted it.

Klondike Bear 03-02-2019 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2773233)
Depends on how much sick leave you used in the last two years or if you consider fracturing a hand bone as happening. If your going to get a finger sown back on I suspect they admit you to the hospital even though you might not stay overnight so that could count also. I know someone who did some nice work with a chain saw and even though it did not meet the exemption rule they counted it.

That’s good to know. Yes it was an outpatient to reattach the finger. Apparently I said some very questionable stuff when I woke up after surgery. I just know according to the contract finger doesn’t count (try flying with pins down the middle of your finger) but I’m glad to know they might count It. This happened back in 2015 so I was able to verify it.


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