As soon as lease is over, which I heard is 3-4 years from now, Delta will park all 717s. This was determined almost 2 years ago between Delta and FAA CMO.

May have been winter schedule temporary park.

Been on the M88/90 and now the 717. Time for the T-Tails to die.

In a LUV SEC filing a while back, the remaining note was something like $17 million per plane after 2025. No way Delta would pay that with the price of a new A220 being less than $30 million.(number from the Boeing lawsuit)

I'd agree with that as long as that price holds. But what will the pricing effect be of that many 717's instantly dumped on the market? I doubt the few existing 717 operators will have anywhere remotely close to the demand level to make an upward dent in the pricing power of those very used, very orphaned planes. Sure Hawaiian may want a few and the occasional micro ULCC somewhere, but not nearly 100 of them.

There may be a very realistic price point by then for most of them that would still entice DL to keep them.

Exactly. Delta does not want to give UAL or AMR a plane that they can use to level the playing field in the 110 seat market. So I would be very surprised to see DAL let these hit the open market.

I could see these being earmarked in a 737/797/etc order in the future. Having said that, direct from the horses mouth these are PLANNED to be out of service in 2025. Just like the MD88 fleet was supposed to wind down by the end of 2017. So the “we are parking them in 3-4 years” is not accurate per the base visit presentation in Dec/Jan.

This would be a good thing to cover in one of your skyhub videos if any of you use that (I do not).

The engine manufactures are backing out of the 797, Rolls is out, so is GE, Pratt says maybe a GTF at 45k lbs, but not till 2030ish. The engine is too expensive to produce.

I think Delta is done with Boeing for a while.

The 3 parked 717's come back soon. Pulled for seasonal slowdown and keeping engines at reduced hours.

Only one I saw that was out was Rolls. Are the other ones newly out?

I think the 717s give Delta a strong competitive advantage against AA and UAL right now. Especially vs the RJs. However in 5 years if UAL or United want to grab these and put them up against the vast fleet of A220s Delta will have I think management will say be my guest.

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