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Old 05-13-2019, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey View Post
And as many on here keenly announce, it's not only about pay. Those numbers don't quantify QOL protections, retirement, vacation and sick time. Someone not long ago said the FAs don't even have vacation/sick, but PTO.

There are RJ captains that made more than me last year. They had to work all but 8 days a month for it and I averaged 18 says off a month. Doesn't mean their contract is better.
Correct. 56 hours of PTO per year. That’s it.
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Am I the only one that thinks that all 3 here are much higher than I would’ve expected? Not trying to knock FAs, but that’s some pretty stout compensation for what that job requires. I'm impressed.
"Pretty stout compensation for what that job requires?" What's the main job of a FA?
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Old 05-13-2019, 07:43 AM
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Time to get the popcorn...
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Old 05-13-2019, 07:58 AM
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"Pretty stout compensation for what that job requires?" What's the main job of a FA?
I think he maybe meant what was required to be hired?
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"Pretty stout compensation for what that job requires?" What's the main job of a FA?
Dealing with self-centered, entitled, egomaniacal babies... And also passengers.
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Old 05-13-2019, 08:12 AM
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Correct. 56 hours of PTO per year. That’s it.
Yep and you have FA’s selling some of that back to the company, while coming up to the cockpit coughing and crying that they don’t have sick time.

I don’t understand why you continually come on here telling us that you need a union. You need to get 50% plus 1 vote of your peers convinced.
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Old 05-13-2019, 08:28 AM
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Correct. 56 hours of PTO per year. That’s it.
My wife is a FA for you guys and I have never seen such a hostile company towards a particular group of employees.

No written absenteeism policy - NONE.

Essentially you could call out sick (legitimately) once a year and if you rub your manager the wrong way you could be legally terminated due to reliability.

I don't think is as much about dollars and cents as it is about basic job protections.

I will give DAL credit, they do just enough to keep 50% happy.
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Old 05-13-2019, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SmitteyB View Post
My wife is a FA for you guys and I have never seen such a hostile company towards a particular group of employees.

No written absenteeism policy - NONE.

Essentially you could call out sick (legitimately) once a year and if you rub your manager the wrong way you could be legally terminated due to reliability.

I don't think is as much about dollars and cents as it is about basic job protections.

I will give DAL credit, they do just enough to keep 50% happy.
Nice hyperbole, but that's not actually how it works from a legal perspective.
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Nice hyperbole, but that's not actually how it works from a legal perspective.
While they can't terminate you for calling out sick, as an at-will employee, they do not have to provide you a reason and with the amount of data in the form of delay reporting, they could easily make up reliability issues and even find customer complaint from Pulse.
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While they can't terminate you for calling out sick, as an at-will employee, they do not have to provide you a reason and with the amount of data in the form of delay reporting, they could easily make up reliability issues and even find customer complaint from Pulse.
This is completely different from what you said previously. Your previous post was that they could use a single sick call as reason to terminate you. Even with that, there are limits to where they can go with that line of attack. When it comes down to it, they would have to show an outlier from other FAs.

Feel free to move the goalposts again, but your original assertion is already false by your own admittance.
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