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ERflyer 05-31-2019 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2828927)
My quality of life and the quality of life of all the pilots I know is vastly improved from post bankruptcy and some sections of the contract such as reserve are light years ahead of when I was hired over 30 years ago. The forum here seems to perpetuate that we are going backward. We are not. There has been a constant stream of improvements. The question becomes how little should the average pilot fly at Delta. It’s basically back to pre chapter 11 levels now. At what point does it start to handicap the ability of the company to grow.
Remember when it seemed like every post was about the great deal at SWA and all their growth. Nobody however wanted to discuss how SWA could grow into any market they wanted. The answer was simple. They had a large cost advantage. They built the bulk of their growth on 120 an hour Captains and flying to FAR’s. When they lost a big chunk of that advantage due to cost cutting at other airlines, their costs soaring and FAR 117 what has happened to their growth? As they regain that cost advantage the last couple of years what is their growth trajectory been?
I want a great contract but when I see guys like NotEnuf post how they work 7 days a month average and go 45 days at a time without working at all and in other threads complain to high heaven about the terrible contract forgive me if I am a bit of a non believer. When I see 3 year Captains like MikeF16/Hans Solo making 300k and posting like it’s the worst job they ever had I get skeptical. I recently flew a trip where one of the copilots showed up late screaming about being assigned the trip and how the reserve process sucked. He then stated he needed a leg because he had not flown in the last 60 days!
I want to be compensated well and be treated well by the company. I do however expect to actually work for that compensation. I am greatful every day for this job. It has done amazing things for my family. If 12 years ago you had told me where we would be today I would have laughed in your face. If I had posted on the forum back then where we would have ended up today there would have been hundreds of post saying not a chance in hell.
I guess I find life happier if I embrace the good rather then obsess on every perceived injustice.
If we as pilots at Delta really wanted to go after a injustice we would dedicate 75% of the value of this contract to trying to restore some benefits to pilots who truly got hammered on in the chapter 11 process. The pilots still here today have made a amazing recovery. Many past pilots are not as lucky.

All so true. I remember on one forum when I said that we would still get pretty good profit sharing if we made over $2.5B a year (vice the $1.5B old limit) and there were scores of posts saying it wouldn’t happen in a hundred years. I think it was 4 years later that were were making over $5B.

This is literally the most flexible, highly compensated, most secure (not completely secure - nothing is) best job in the world.

thinkstraight 05-31-2019 09:20 AM

I watched multiple trips in open time that sat uncovered from the afternoon and early evening. Scheduling didn't bother to cover them until 1 A.M. WTF?

Arcos is a job eliminator for schedulers. If they are that under staffed to wait until the wee hours of the night to cover trips then there needs to be changes.

4fans 05-31-2019 10:14 AM

PSA
 
Public Service Announcement:

You can check the date your ARCOS password expires and reset it before that happens in the arcos app by clicking my info and then my account.

Could potentially save you some stress one day.

GogglesPisano 05-31-2019 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by clear4approach (Post 2829398)
Question: Recently (around the past 2 weeks) my ARCOS will not call me. I only get the ARCOS app notification. I've checked the settings and my phone number is there, same as its always been. I've dug around in my phone to see if I inadvertently blocked the number and it doesn't seem so. Anyone else encounter this? Any suggestions? Thanks.

Following.

(How will I know if I get the audible "ping" from the app if my phone is on "Do Not Disturb?")

3 green 05-31-2019 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by clear4approach (Post 2829398)
Question: Recently (around the past 2 weeks) my ARCOS will not call me. I only get the ARCOS app notification. I've checked the settings and my phone number is there, same as its always been. I've dug around in my phone to see if I inadvertently blocked the number and it doesn't seem so. Anyone else encounter this? Any suggestions? Thanks.

The same thing(or similar) is happening to others. You get the email notification but do not get the ARCOS text or receive a phone call. If you call scheduling, they tell you it shows ARCOS attempted the call and give the time..

clear4approach 05-31-2019 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2829480)
Following.

(How will I know if I get the audible "ping" from the app if my phone is on "Do Not Disturb?")

On my android phone, I can designate ARCOS to make the sound, despite do not disturb being turned on.

GliderCFI 06-06-2019 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2829480)
Following.

(How will I know if I get the audible "ping" from the app if my phone is on "Do Not Disturb?")

Mine always rings for arcos. Nothing like being in a movie theater and hearing "money money money, fast cars and tha, cash money" ring out. I took that one, btw.

notEnuf 06-07-2019 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2828682)
I don't mind an ARCOS call and not getting the trip, but the batch sizing needs to be reigned in. I don't care how busy scheduling is, as it is, they already have enough relief from the old school method by ARCOS. Anything between 2000 and 0600 should be 1:1 or the old school method of calling.

This!

b

I've been informed that a lower case b looks like a thumbs up like and it is the "in" short hand for media without a like button, can anyone confirm this? I'm soooooo old apparently.

notEnuf 06-07-2019 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by GliderCFI (Post 2833095)
Mine always rings for arcos. Nothing like being in a movie theater and hearing "money money money, fast cars and tha, cash money" ring out. I took that one, btw.


My ARCOS tone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpbbuaIA3Ds

Gunfighter 06-07-2019 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2833278)
This!

b

I've been informed that a lower case b looks like a thumbs up like and it is the "in" short hand for media without a like button, can anyone confirm this? I'm soooooo old apparently.

b is the left hand version
d is the right hand version
It's also used in preschool, so the content is age appropriate on APC.

https://ecdn.teacherspayteachers.com...-1961690-1.jpg


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