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BobZ 07-10-2019 05:47 PM

Straw poll.

If available to option into would you exchange your annual pass travel benefits for a PS coach seat to and from work as a commuter?

gloopy 07-10-2019 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by BobZ (Post 2851171)
Straw poll.

If available to option into would you exchange your annual pass travel benefits for a PS coach seat to and from work as a commuter?

For one? LOL no. Literally zero pilots would.

For unlimited PS to and from work? That would have some takers for sure.

How about first we see what we can get instead of buddy passes that cost more than some tickets do and don't get a seat assigned until V1.

BobZ 07-10-2019 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2851176)
For one? LOL no. Literally zero pilots would.

For unlimited PS to and from work? That would have some takers for sure.

How about first we see what we can get instead of buddy passes that cost more than some tickets do and don't get a seat assigned until V1.

Well the question is as an annual opt in or out. Exchange the years pass travel for ps coach seats to and from work?

m3113n1a1 07-10-2019 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by BobZ (Post 2851171)
Straw poll.

If available to option into would you exchange your annual pass travel benefits for a PS coach seat to and from work as a commuter?

I'd probably go for it... it'd be a tough decision though.

BobZ 07-10-2019 06:19 PM

Well im seeing it as a annual election program. On ones pass anniversary date.

Since commuting comes and goes over a career...one could elect the option vs pass travel for the coming year.

Big E 757 07-10-2019 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by BobZ (Post 2851194)
Well im seeing it as a annual election program. On ones pass anniversary date.

Since commuting comes and goes over a career...one could elect the option vs pass travel for the coming year.

How about we give up our buddy passes. I’d give those up for 1 PS pass for everyone on my travel benefits per year.

High on sky 07-11-2019 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2851164)
Interesting take. You seem to be taking the sea lawyer stratedgy of based on what you don't see in a policy, you can therefore get away with more than a DL pilot can on DL equipment WRT DL JS and DL pass privileges can get away with, when you yourself are referring to the same situation on a DL JS with DL pass benefits.

While its possible that's technically the case (and if so, only by accidental omission and very clearly not by intent) that would, best case, comprise a technicality/loophole that I would not want to rely on as an affirmative defense.

Up to you though.

Obviously I was in the wrong on this one. Not going to happen again. I’m accustomed to a different system where this is fine. Was not previously aware this was the case with Delta. That’s why I asked here. It’s not something that is obvious from the pass travel literature I read.

I personally don’t see why some of you think that this limitation is a good thing but if that’s the rule, then that’s the rule.

Thank you all for the info.

ChecklistMonkey 07-11-2019 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by High on sky (Post 2851332)
Obviously I was in the wrong on this one. Not going to happen again. I’m accustomed to a different system where this is fine. Was not previously aware this was the case with Delta. That’s why I asked here. It’s not something that is obvious from the pass travel literature I read.

I personally don’t see why some of you think that this limitation is a good thing but if that’s the rule, then that’s the rule.

Thank you all for the info.

Don't let some of these McStuffy literalists deter you. Some people here get upset when you don't sign the release neatly.

Like I've said, if you list non-rev and show up and tell the gate agent "if it's available, I'd happy to take the Jumpseat to get more standbys on" you'll have no problem. If it gives the appearance you are trying to help them out, they will list you in a heartbeat. I've never once had a problem. And I've never been threatened to get fired or lose my pass benefits like some people are claiming.

Denny Crane 07-11-2019 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey (Post 2851384)
Don't let some of these McStuffy literalists deter you. Some people here get upset when you don't sign the release neatly.

Like I've said, if you list non-rev and show up and tell the gate agent "if it's available, I'd happy to take the Jumpseat to get more standbys on" you'll have no problem. If it gives the appearance you are trying to help them out, they will list you in a heartbeat. I've never once had a problem. And I've never been threatened to get fired or lose my pass benefits like some people are claiming.

Of course you haven’t had a problem doing what you describe above because, wait for it............it’s not against company policy! It’s the smart thing to do. Now going up to the agent and telling them you have a JS and nonrev listing on the same flight.......not so smart, against company policy and could lead to a reduction in pass benefits (not that they are worth much now.)

Denny

ChecklistMonkey 07-11-2019 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2851456)
Of course you haven’t had a problem doing what you describe above because, wait for it............it’s not against company policy! It’s the smart thing to do. Now going up to the agent and telling them you have a JS and nonrev listing on the same flight.......not so smart, against company policy and could lead to a reduction in pass benefits (not that they are worth much now.)

Denny

That isn't at all what the OP was describing. No one is saying that your example is acceptable. The OP can't even "list" for a JS because he's OAL.


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