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Originally Posted by High on sky (Post 2848997)

So I have Delta pass travel through my spouse and I work at another airline. Had spouse list me as S3B but flight was pretty full so I listed for jumpseat (OAL obviously) and the gate agent was giving me grief about having the two listings. I understand that DL pilots can reserve the jumpseat and if you do that you are not supposed to have a pass travel listing for same flight but that was not the case here. Was I in the wrong or was that kosher?

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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey (Post 2851477)

That isn't at all what the OP was describing. No one is saying that your example is acceptable. The OP can't even "list" for a JS because he's OAL.

Don’t know about you but I read he had two listings from his initial post. How he got those two listings is irrelevant.

Denny

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2851483)

Don’t know about you but I read he had two listings from his initial post. How he got those two listings is irrelevant.

Denny

And the situation I'm describing is the exact same scenario. In order to clear you in CASS, that have to list you on the Jumpseat. Most gate agents are happy to do that if it gets more people on.

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Originally Posted by High on sky (Post 2851332)

I personally don’t see why some of you think that this limitation is a good thing but if that’s the rule, then that’s the rule.

I don't think its a good thing. Many years ago you could list in back and fill out a paper JS pass on mainline or DCI, although mainline was slower to get unlimited "flowback". That was lower tech than what we have today but it worked far better and was easier for the gate agents too. All they had to do was stack the JS slips in order (they were very easy to put in order with a quick glance) and everyone who could get on got on.

You could even fill out a JS slip "if needed" where if you wanted to be nice to get another non revver on who couldn't JS and the plane was going to leave without the JS full you could volunteer to take it to help them out.

Now suddenly with all the tech (ikr) common and easy things like that are now scandalous. I've heard AA (I think, maybe its someone else) has a "dual listing" procedure that works well.

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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey (Post 2851505)

And the situation I'm describing is the exact same scenario. In order to clear you in CASS, that have to list you on the Jumpseat. Most gate agents are happy to do that if it gets more people on.

But what happens if that's at the last minute? You won't have the ability to logon and cancel your non-rev res, so its up to them to do it and what if they don't. Now you're a rogue dual lister etc.

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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey (Post 2851505)

And the situation I'm describing is the exact same scenario. In order to clear you in CASS, that have to list you on the Jumpseat. Most gate agents are happy to do that if it gets more people on.

Go back and reread what you said. It is not the same. Having two listing (jumpseat and nonrev) on one side then having one listing (nonrev) and going to the agent and saying you will take the jumpseat to get another person on are two different scenarios. One a no no and two the right thing to do.

Denny

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2851618)

Those are the exact same things just said a different way. If you reserve the JS and book a non rev hoping to get a better seat, that's one thing. That guy can't even do that. Either way you slice it, in the system it looks identical.

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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey (Post 2851645)

He made a non rev reservation and then actually listed for the JS at the gate...he did NOT do as you suggested and tell the agent "if you need me too, I will take the Jumpseat." Not the same thing.

Frankly I don't really care about it.

Denny