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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2853669)
We once had the entire airline stop flying GS’s. It did not go well in court but the senior pilots today certainly were willing to stop flying GS’s.
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Originally Posted by GivemeVSP
(Post 2852917)
This has to be a joke
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 2853703)
It is. Sailing is wrong. I checked with people who, like, know facts and stuff.
Call your reps for the full story. |
Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 2853703)
It is. Sailing is wrong. I checked with people who, like, know facts and stuff.
Call your reps for the full story. |
Originally Posted by TED74
(Post 2853491)
I'm not sure that passengers at Spirit would ever notice disgruntled employees. Poor morale in our cockpits will undoubtedly affect Delta's current business model, and ability to operate so well while undermanned.
Only scenario I see morale getting low is AA and UAL getting significant gains in their contract surpassing Delta Pilot PWA value then almost simultaneously a recession hits dropping PS below 10%. Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 2853703)
It is. Sailing is wrong. I checked with people who, like, know facts and stuff.
Call your reps for the full story. Sent from my SM-G975U1 using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 2853726)
We are a long long time away from morale getting low. Overall, we have an excellent World Class Contract that is the envy of the industry. Morale at Delta currently is very high. Just 3 years ago TA2 passed by the highest margin in Delta history. As long as PS keeps coming in 10%+ chunks folks will be happy.
PS goes a really long way to making people happy, particularly when it's new. But it is starting to get baked in, and I know I don't want to work decades more on the trajectory we're on WRT productivity gives and efficiencies. Again, I could very much be in the minority... but money ain't everything for me or my family. I won't publicly say the minimum hourly pay raise I'm willing to accept in the next contract for fear of being hunted and slaughtered... but pay won't do as much for my morale as work rules, scope and rig enhancement. I see and hear what crappy trips and enhanced productivity are doing to the age 55+ NB captains I fly with (who are very content with their pay), and I don't want to be living and working under anything worse in my later years. |
Originally Posted by TED74
(Post 2853757)
Want to know how I know you're wrong? Same reason I know I'm right...I don't. I only fly with a very small percentage of the seniority list (narrow body), with dozens of friends of similar seniority to mine. What I hear isn't anything like what you describe, but if you tell me how you have your finger on the pulse, I'm open to convincing data that isn't just your anecdotal evidence. I could be very wrong - tell me how you know.
PS goes a really long way to making people happy, particularly when it's new. But it is starting to get baked in, and I know I don't want to work decades more on the trajectory we're on WRT productivity gives and efficiencies. Again, I could very much be in the minority... but money ain't everything for me or my family. I won't publicly say the minimum hourly pay raise I'm willing to accept in the next contract for fear of being hunted and slaughtered... but pay won't do as much for my morale as work rules, scope and rig enhancement. I see and hear what crappy trips and enhanced productivity are doing to the age 55+ NB captains I fly with (who are very content with their pay), and I don't want to be living and working under anything worse in my later years. |
Originally Posted by 3 green
(Post 2853115)
Mgmt will drag negotiations out for a very long time. If I were mgmt, I would. The economy is booming, and there is no reason for the company to settle the contract anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by ERflyer
(Post 2853672)
All 49 of them.
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