I had them as students in the early '60's, in a PanAm program. They for the most part, have always been pro-American. I think a few ran away with a Cherokee maiden or two.

Guys,

Enough with the racism stuff, stay on topic or we will close this thread. And please if someone posts something agains the TOS do not quote it.

Thanks Scoop

Those skilled professions you speak of are valuable and those careers and others like them would be "reinvigorated", be more lucrative if policies supported the middle class. The vast majority of the population's lives would be "buoyed" regardless of the career, with the emphasis not on the investor/shareholder/executive class and protecting money, but on the working class. Call them Bernie Sanders "talking points" if you want, but I don't see the younger generation waiting around for their share to trickle down to them :rolleyes:

Colleges won't be offering the 'services' as you put if they weren't guaranteed to be paid. If banks weren't guaranteed to be paid, they wouldn't loan money for ridiculous degrees that have pathetic ROIs. You are right that parents are to partly to blame, but if colleges got back to legitimate education things would improve.

Colleges are in the business of making money, just like corporations, hospitals and religions. They’ve seen unlimited funding through the government-subsidized student loan industry and have responded like any profit-seeking entity with no downward pressure on costs: They’ve raised their prices. And in doing so hired a bloated level of “administrators” that didn’t even exist 30 years ago (along with spas and climbing walls.)

Thats where you are wrong, there is not "share" owed to them. Nothing is preventing them from building their own wealth other than bad financial planning and self induced debt.

People complaining about degradation of the quality of life in this country need to point fingers at what really caused it and the notion that people at the top are "hoarding the wealth" (which is not possible anyway given wealth is created and not finite) is not the reason. People are making less because someone decided we should allow jobs to go all around the world to save money and at the same time continually let in millions of low skilled, low educated workers who are willing to do jobs for half of what the natives were doing them for. I hear people saying "illegals do the jobs natives don't want to do". Well why don't they want to do them? Simple, the pay is crap and you can raise the minimum wage all day long but that's not gonna matter when farmer Joe hires day laborers who are paid scraps under the table. It's that way in pretty much in every industry to some degree.
Who said anything about racism?

It's comical that people think the government paying for it will somehow make those costs go down and not skyrocket even more same with healthcare. One only needs to look at how medicare is run to see our future on that kind of system.

The rest of the western world pays way less per health care per citizen and has healthier citizens who live longer. That’s objectively true. A large reason for it is they don’t have a massive insurance industry that has CEOs and shareholders to pay. I have no idea how to realistically fix it, nor does anyone, but what’s comical is claiming our healthcare system is overall “better” than Canada, Norway, Japan, etc. ask anyone from those countries if they’d like to model what we have here.

If you want to see college tuition come back down to more reasonable levels...the government just needs to stop guaranteeing the loans. If the lenders have to carry the risk, they’ll be less likely to loan $300K to an 18 year old persuing a degree in Oriental history. I think I’m saying the same thing you are.

My niece is looking at colleges right now. My brother in law told me that the “dorms” these days at college are more like condos. Students have amazing amenities in their buildings with cafes and such, instead of a food hall that serves 3 meals a day, at certain times, and if you miss the meal, you’re cooking ramen on your hot plate. The entire student college experience has gotten a LOT more expensive.

I didn’t read your quote when I posted. Sorry James. I agree 100%. If the Govt. stopped backing the loans, more rational prices would follow.

One problem with highschool votech programs. It keeps the market flooded with the youngest and dumbest. This by itself artificially lowers wages. From a current pilots perspective, it's perfectly okay to let someone who can't read or do math become an A&P in highschool. How would you feel if they started providing CPLs upon graduation. I bet it wouldn't be seen as benevolent. I'm sure that many here would choose another career because of the type of people it would attract.