Were you here back then for the merger? I think the short answer depends on which side of the Mason Dixon line your lineage is based.

If you are from the polar regions there are a lot of "reasons"/(excuses) why the freighter contract wasn't renewed prior to the merger. But during the "merge" those aircraft were going to go away because "there is no money" in freight.....no contract to support the Anchorage cargo hub thus no credit given for those jobs..... because they were going to be excised out of existence

If south of the line.....that was also the logic.....all presented to an arbitrator.....much to the chagrin or many, the arbitrator kinda affirmed TRIP7's take and not Jerry's

Just my take.....others can offer more perspective

Where were you working during each of these negotiations?

What information do you find lacking? I'm a big fan of all the tools and information currently available at dalscope.org (a feature that did not exist under your favored previous administration).

The union felt management was out of compliance in instances the arbitrator subsequently found otherwise. Are you upset that we have union administration that accepts settled binding arbitration... and makes timely adjustments to actual events? What would you be clamoring about if they continued to state their opinion, were it in conflict with the arbitrator's finding?

I think his point which has some validity is that in the past we would have used the possible violation to extract contractual gains without going to arbitration. Now we grieve everything.

I didn't take that as his point, but perhaps. When the company effectively just says "oh, sorry" to violations of our contract, I'm not sure there is much extraction to be had.

Time will tell if the remedy stings enough to change company behavior, but in the mean time I'm happy to grieve each and every deviation. Personally I'd love to grieve the decades of pay errors to somehow make management accountable for paying us in accordance with the PWA.

Hopefully there won't be a quid pro quo.....where they want to extract the money that they have overpaid me.

Unlike LaLa land....everything isn't a one way street. I got RR pay a coulpa of times that it shouldn't have paid....and got a 7 day WS that put me way over the block hour limit......those 3 "errors" alone were wort $32,000 to my good. I'm sorry you are always winding up on the short end of the stick

OBTW....been thru KCM 5 times since the change....2 times in civvies 3 times in uniform.....Haven't been randomly selected 1 time. I just count my blessings that I am living a charmed life

YMMV

I still think it was good news. The company might now realize that things that might have been overlooked or traded in the past may now be contested all out. This can be a very successful tactic. I consider this good news.

Before you mistake my point of view, please allow me to expand.

I truly wish we could have a great relationship with management but that is a two way street. Hard to see the relationship getting any better until after section 6 but a guy can dream.

Our biggest problem is our dysfunctional union history with many current and former members forming into "teams" (Trip7 comes to mind here) with each team wishing more for the other side to fail then for us as a Pilot group to win. This whole process is not only self defeating but immature. Apple dumpling gang? Cabal? seriously?

I for one appreciate Trips contrarian point of view on issues but he often comes across as more concerned about which "Team" is winning then how we the Pilots are doing. This seems very counterproductive to me.

Lets see if we can bring this conversation to a more adult level. In my opinion there appears to be two schools of thought in DALPA, the older DAL South centric school of thought - cooperate and get along as much as possible and the former NW centric school of thought - fight everything as much as possible.

Both philosophies have advantages and disadvantages when pursued wisely, but in my opinion both philosophies if taken to the extreme provide sub optimal results.

Take TA-1 for example, pretty crappy overall, one might even say a Turd, but the DAL south centric guys were all over it as the best TA ever. Absurd, this was an extreme view and the Pilots wisely saw past this and voted it down.

Then comes TA-2, much better overall but the Hardliners were against it as a POS presenting the opposite extreme view. The Pilots once again wisely saw past this and approved it.

Like I said both philosophies have pros and cons and one may be a better tactic at times then the other but to use either philosophy as an over guiding strategy seems foolish.

The current MEC makeup seems pretty good and I want them to succeed despite which teams is running the show. Time will tell if they can keep it together and as a unified team come up with the best TA possible. I sure hope so.

Scoop

[QUOTE=ChecklistMonkey;2889720]What does scope have to do with this summer? Are you saying better scope would have made it less stressful?

I’m saying our work rules/vacation/quality of life are far behind because over the last decade our leaders made concessions for money.

The pilot group is done with that mentality.

Please provide some numbers to back up this claim.

You were able to determine the timing of uncovered legs and the associated PCS behavior to attempt to cover them for those reroutes? I'm led to believe we don't have access to the data to make all RR pay determinations ourselves, and too many folks think you have to get back more than 4 late to trigger it. Plenty of reserve pilots don't even know they are eligible for reroute pilots just like when they fly the line.

If you think pay errors are a wash or work in our favor... or consider the privilege of working significant overtime at straight pay a big win...well, who am I to talk you out of your joy.