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09-30-2019, 05:50 AM

#101

Funk

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

The 797 is planned for engines in the 45,000 lb class. Hanging 72,000 lb thrust engines on it is likely to be very inefficient.

So you’re saying we could replace the 75 with the Honeybadger II? Load it full of people, anvils, and boat anchors, takeoff from Lima with derate numbers and climb straight to FL410 and cruise home at .85M. Take my money now!!

09-30-2019, 09:55 AM

#102

Dstblj52

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Originally Posted by Funk

It does not sound like that to the accountants who actually have to buy the aircraft never mind, the 321xlr, is a current type who they have a reserve for and can rotate them through the rest of the operation as need.

09-30-2019, 11:05 AM

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I’m curious of everyone’s thoughts on potential flying from this deal...

Will there be flying to South America from other bases in the future? LAX/SEA/SLC to São Paulo, Santiago, Lima, Buenos Aires, Bogota...?

Or will it just be more flights from bases where we already do some of this like ATL/JFK/DTW?

What aircraft would serves those routes best? 330/767/321NEO?

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09-30-2019, 11:06 AM

#104

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Originally Posted by dodgerk

I’m curious if everyone’s thoughts on potential flying from this deal...

Will be be flying to South America from other bases in the future? LAX/SEA/SLC to São Paulo, Santiago, Lima, Buenos Aires, Bogota...?

Or will it just be more flights from bases where we already do some of this like ATL/JFK/DTW?

What aircraft would serves those routes best? 330/767/321NEO?

Nobody knows anything yet

09-30-2019, 11:12 AM

#105

m3113n1a1

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Originally Posted by dodgerk

I’m curious if everyone’s thoughts on potential flying from this deal...

Will there be flying to South America from other bases in the future? LAX/SEA/SLC to São Paulo, Santiago, Lima, Buenos Aires, Bogota...?

Or will it just be more flights from bases where we already do some of this like ATL/JFK/DTW?

What aircraft would serves those routes best? 330/767/321NEO?

I bet even Ed Bastian doesn't have the answers to your questions in his head yet!

09-30-2019, 03:45 PM

#106

Gunfighter

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Originally Posted by dodgerk

Those are great questions. Looking at their route map, the main cities are LIM, SCL, EZE and GRU. Other than LIM, we would be overflying most of the destinations on the way to a hub. It would be like flying from LAX to DFW with a connection in ATL. The primary change will be moving flights from MIA to ATL.

09-30-2019, 04:44 PM

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Baradium

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

The 797 is planned for engines in the 45,000 lb class. Hanging 72,000 lb thrust engines on it is likely to be very inefficient.

That argument still goes out the window when someone says the 787 itself is the only alternative... since it has those same engines but isn't optimized for the shorter segments. It also means that engines of THAT technology level can be made. The big argument is "we can't build engines that large." Probably not as difficult to design a similar engine to the 787 at a lower thrust output than a GTF that we "can't build large enough."

09-30-2019, 04:48 PM

#108

Baradium

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Originally Posted by dodgerk

New DAL hub in Santiago or possibly Lima depending on politics. Company will attempt to get provisions in the next PWA to accommodate a crew base there rather than have to deadhead crews there on their own. Possibility it could be A220 with an additional 220 order.