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Al Czervik 10-14-2019 04:35 PM

Republic denial of travel on DL AC
 
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SkyWest and Republic will be denying all travel on your aircraft (as well as ours) to UAL guys and gals.

PassportPlump 10-14-2019 04:38 PM

Wish we would get rid of them altogether. What’s their beef now? I don’t get that airline. Constantly thinking they’re the warden and not the inmate.

tennisguru 10-14-2019 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by PassportPlump (Post 2904831)
Wish we would get rid of them altogether. What’s their beef now? I don’t get that airline. Constantly thinking they’re the warden and not the inmate.

Basically United move them down a step, so on United metal it's UA pilots, Exclusively UAX regionals (like Air Wisconsin, who only flies for UA), then everyone else, including UAX regionals who also fly for DL, AA, etc. The same basic priority system also applies to exclusive UAX metal flights.

So now if a DL guy walks up and checks in for a UA flight before a SKW pilot does the DL guys goes first. They're basically lumping their non-UA-exclusive carriers in with every other airline out there on a first come first served basis.

This is slightly different than we do it as we have DL, then 9E, then connection carriers, then everyone else.

Flytolive 10-14-2019 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 2904844)
So now if a DL guy walks up and checks in for a UA flight before a SKW pilot does the DL guys goes first.

The SKW pilot would have gone ahead of the DL guys if SKW would have signed the agreement United offered them, but SKW refused to sign.

CPPfacts 10-14-2019 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 2904844)
Basically United move them down a step, so on United metal it's UA pilots, Exclusively UAX regionals (like Air Wisconsin, who only flies for UA), then everyone else, including UAX regionals who also fly for DL, AA, etc. The same basic priority system also applies to exclusive UAX metal flights.

So now if a DL guy walks up and checks in for a UA flight before a SKW pilot does the DL guys goes first. They're basically lumping their non-UA-exclusive carriers in with every other airline out there on a first come first served basis.

This is slightly different than we do it as we have DL, then 9E, then connection carriers, then everyone else.

They had that option given to them, but they wanted to be on the same level as UEX exclusive carriers. Now they have banned UAL, XJT, Commutair, ARW, and TSA from their jumpseat.

CPPfacts 10-14-2019 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Flytolive (Post 2904851)
The SKW pilot would have gone ahead of the DL guys if SKW would have signed the agreement United offered them, but SKW refused to sign.

^^^^THIS^^^^^

Baradium 10-14-2019 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by PassportPlump (Post 2904831)
Wish we would get rid of them altogether. What’s their beef now? I don’t get that airline. Constantly thinking they’re the warden and not the inmate.

United is not only trying to change jumpseat priority but boarding order as well. They are trying to force them to use date of hire for jumpeat priority rather than industry standard time of check-in within a priority list. Unless they agree to change to date of hire they have a reduced priority beyond their non wholly owned express priority. The SkyWest and Republic pilots seem to be in the right on this one.

Baradium 10-14-2019 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Flytolive (Post 2904851)
The SKW pilot would have gone ahead of the DL guys if SKW would have signed the agreement United offered them, but SKW refused to sign.


You leave out where that agreement forces them to abandon industry standard time of check-in for jumpseat priority to force them to use seniority like UAL does.

Flytolive 10-14-2019 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2904854)
United is not only trying to change jumpseat priority but boarding order as well. They are trying to force them to use date of hire for jumpeat priority rather than industry standard time of check-in within a priority list.

Absolutely incorrect. In fact the exclusive carriers are TOC on the UA JS, United pilots are prioritized between themselves according to seniority.

Baradium 10-14-2019 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Flytolive (Post 2904856)
Absolutely incorrect. In fact the exclusive carriers are TOC on the UA JS, United pilots are prioritized between themselves according to seniority.

Someone already posted a picture of the new UAL jumpseat priority on another one of these complaining threads and it clearly shows Date of Hire.


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