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Old 01-12-2020 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RogSmitty
Delta also officially canceled their 787 order in 2016. Not sure how far back that had been rumored though.
He did say "the last ten years". I think it was pretty clear the orders were dead in 2008 when the merger happened, and Boeing pulled the simulator out of NATCO.
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Old 01-12-2020 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
He did say "the last ten years". I think it was pretty clear the orders were dead in 2008 when the merger happened, and Boeing pulled the simulator out of NATCO.


Yeah, I know no one that I talked to ever expected those since I got on property. However, months before that official announcement either Ed or Richard was quoted as saying that he couldn’t foresee a future at delta without the 787....yet here we are.
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Old 01-12-2020 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RogSmitty
Yeah, I know no one that I talked to ever expected those since I got on property. However, months before that official announcement either Ed or Richard was quoted as saying that he couldn’t foresee a future at delta without the 787....yet here we are.
They didn't say how far into the future. They still say that someday we'll probably have them. On top of that, we already have A350s.

Honestly, the 787 launch was an absolute disaster, Delta dodged a massive bullet not being part of that, but people tend to forget all the serious teething problems it had (and still has depending on which engine was ordered).

If we get A350-1000s, I could see LAX 777 closing pretty easily. If not I think it'll be more likely to stay around. The 1000 is the replacement for the 777LR which is needed for routes like Sydney.
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Old 01-12-2020 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Baradium
They didn't say how far into the future. They still say that someday we'll probably have them. On top of that, we already have A350s.

Honestly, the 787 launch was an absolute disaster, Delta dodged a massive bullet not being part of that, but people tend to forget all the serious teething problems it had (and still has depending on which engine was ordered).

If we get A350-1000s, I could see LAX 777 closing pretty easily. If not I think it'll be more likely to stay around. The 1000 is the replacement for the 777LR which is needed for routes like Sydney.
The 1000 has less range than the 900. I would expect they would get the long range version of the 900 for that route.
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Old 01-12-2020 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The 1000 has less range than the 900. I would expect they would get the long range version of the 900 for that route.
Despite being a stretch the -1000 does indeed have better advertised range than the regular -900.
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Old 01-12-2020 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
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Old 01-12-2020 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
Seems LAX 350 will be coming instead of ATL. What routes would be done from LAX and would it take some of the 777 trips? Will the LAX 777 base be closed as well?
The 350 could do all of the LAX 777 trips except Sydney. Shanghai would force a decision between PAX and cargo depending on the winds and weather. The A350-1000 has a little more range (250 ish NM) and may not have as much trouble on PVG. LAX-SYD would require the 900ULR.


Originally Posted by Baradium
If we get A350-1000s, I could see LAX 777 closing pretty easily. If not I think it'll be more likely to stay around. The 1000 is the replacement for the 777LR which is needed for routes like Sydney.
Repeat after me, "The A-350-1000 IS NOT a replacement for the 777LR". "The A-350-1000 IS NOT a replacement for the 777LR", "The A-350-1000 IS NOT a replacement for the 777LR". It is a 777-300ER replacement.

777-200ER = 350-900
777-200LR = 350-900ULR
777-300ER = 350-1000

Think of the 777-200LR is a normal 777 with huge -300ER motors. It's like she went to the mechanic and got engines that are one size too large. The LR also includes larger fuel tanks.

Despite all of the wet dreams pilots have about flying a Delta A350 to SYD, it will not happen with the current order book. In theory, with perfect winds, Canberra as an alternate and a light cargo load, the 350-1000 could make it.
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Old 01-12-2020 | 06:03 PM
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PVG from LAX is not an issue. It was done for roughly 18 months and was never weight restricted/optimized.
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Old 01-12-2020 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Redbird611
Despite being a stretch the -1000 does indeed have better advertised range than the regular -900.
That is why I said the long range version of the 900.
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Old 01-12-2020 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
That is why I said the long range version of the 900.
What about the 1000 with the MTOW boost that its getting for project sunrise?
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