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Bergman 05-30-2022 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 3432132)
Thread resurrection!

Looking for some of the internet’s patented good advice/intel.
Expecting a July class date, live w/in driving distance of NYC, 42 y/o. Family.
At JB for three years and sitting at 65% in JFK on the Bus. Upgrade is years away, upgrade with a line probably eight years away. Currently 3600/4500 system wide. I’ll be 57 years old before I’m top 2000. That said, life is good, enjoy my schedules for now, but I’ll be junior for another 18 years.

The WidgetSeniority site is awesome, and I’m very appreciative of it. However, I’d like to correlate it to some real world data. According to WS, it will take just over four years to sit 63% in NYC on the 73, but on the threads here, it sounds like you can be 60% in less than a year. Where’s the truth? Same with 320.
Goal is to upgrade earlier than I would at JB, or sit NYC WB/B reserve. If I go be WS, I won’t be able to sit 765B until June 2028 (and I realize new hires have recently gotten it).

Also, 320 vs 73N… which has less redeye flying? Does either do more Caribbean than the other?

Thank you!

There have been over a dozen 767-400s given to new hires this year…so your chances of sitting WB reserve quickly are pretty good!

Living in NYC, the world is your oyster at DL. Best trips, most fun crews, and best seniority.

PotatoChip 06-01-2022 05:13 AM

Thanks everyone.
Looking forward to starting. Now just have to wait for that class drop...

Trip7 06-01-2022 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 3433173)
Thanks everyone.

Looking forward to starting. Now just have to wait for that class drop...

Congrats. I think you made the right decision. jetBlue is a young airline with not that many retirements and is out there throwing all kinds of money at Spirit desperate for growth. Delta needs to hire 2000 pilots just to replace the early retirements then they have to hire for NB and WB growth. Living in driving distance of NYC you'll have access to the Delta Super Seniority Boost that NYC provides (Allows you to hold postions and flying that takes YEARS longer to hold at other bases). Withstanding Age 67 or a Black Swan, within 3 years you'll have Access to the following in NYC:

220A
320A
73NA
765B
330B

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Jdub2 06-01-2022 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 3433173)
Thanks everyone.
Looking forward to starting. Now just have to wait for that class drop...

Welcome to Delta!

DWC CAP10 USAF 06-01-2022 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3433179)
Congrats. I think you made the right decision. jetBlue is a young airline with not that many retirements and is out there throwing all kinds of money at Spirit desperate for growth. Delta needs to hire 2000 pilots just to replace the early retirements then they have to hire for NB and WB growth. Living in driving distance of NYC you'll have access to the Delta Super Seniority Boost that NYC provides (Allows you to hold postions and flying that takes YEARS longer to hold at other bases). Withstanding Age 67 or a Black Swan, within 3 years you'll have Access to the following in NYC:

220A
320A
73NA
765B
330B

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Junior NYC330B is around 5 yrs right meow

Gone Flying 06-01-2022 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3433445)
Junior NYC330B is around 5 yrs right meow

It’s worth pointing out that all the pilots hired in 2018, 2019, and 2020 is only about 1,400. Or 7 months of hiring at the current pace.

If we keep replacing ERs with 330s across the pond out of NY in a large way, I could see that being available to someone hired today in 3 years. But I think that is very optimistic

Trip7 06-01-2022 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3433445)
Junior NYC330B is around 5 yrs right meow

Correct right now, when international flying isnt remotely close to 2019 levels and still many more 330 deliveries to go. If one assumes the world will return to normal and Delta gets back to 2019 level international flying plus growth within 2-3 years NYC330B will go new hire

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Nantonaku 06-02-2022 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3433493)
Correct right now, when international flying isnt remotely close to 2019 levels and still many more 330 deliveries to go. If one assumes the world will return to normal and Delta gets back to 2019 level international flying plus growth within 2-3 years NYC330B will go new hire

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That is a lot of assumptions. They also told us wide body captain new hires in indoc. Still waiting on that to happen.

symbian simian 06-02-2022 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 3432188)
Right on.
That reserve policy is killer, and is the ultimate goal in life. Actually want to take part in my kids’ life and keep the first wife!!

As opposed to the second and third? I do understand, it's expensive to keep all.

GucciBoy 06-03-2022 02:35 AM


Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 3433886)
That is a lot of assumptions. They also told us wide body captain new hires in indoc. Still waiting on that to happen.


I’m pretty sure they didn’t say that.


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