Could this also be a warning shot to the FAs. "Look what will happen if you want to be represented?"

When the company terminated your pension plan, were they “really negotiating?” Or, did you just wake up one day and find out you had lost $100,000 for every year that you lived past the age of 60?

Or, how about in C2012 when the company included an offer to buy SWA/AirTrans 717’s, when we knew they wanted them whether we ratified the agreement, or not. Was that really negotiating?

Same thing for the early retirement plan offer and drawdown of the 50 seat RJ’s. Things that they already wanted were included as “improvements” to our contract. Was that really negotiating?

Finally, how about in 2015 when they tried to offer us pay raises that were to be paid with the money we would have given up with the loss of our profit sharing?

So now, in 2020, when the company is making so much money that they can buy ownership of airlines, buy stock back, and give pay raises to other employee groups, while doing nothing to fix the debacle that occurred last summer, (other than to reduce the amount of summer vacation weeks for us), if our union isn’t “really negotiating” when it comes to restoration of our (as in everyone’s) retirements, vacations,
schedule flexibility, and other contract improvements, I’m fine with it.

Taking a hard line like that is long overdue.

My newKnow speaks for me!!!:)

Denny

Preach it my brother!

Please stop. I think we all know that you are going to be pleased with management almost no matter what, but replying to my comment about the dumpster fire it appears that the company's Section 23 proposal was with a chipper post about the little things you're happy with implies that you think these offset management's intent to gut our working rules to get out from under our Gummed up staffing.

Maybe that wasn't your intent, but you need to know that that's how it reads, particularly when placed in context of many of your other posts on a variety of topics.

These things you mentioned represent a tiny fraction of the PWA, and would be considered a cherry on top of an improved Section 23.

Obviously you didn’t get the point if the post. Either way, it isn’t me you have to try and convince.

"Word on the street"?

$2 Billion is what it is now?

needs to be confirmed..

Capt Graham has emailed a rebuttal to the pilot group. Said Ryan's letter contained several inaccuracies, including the $28 million quote

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So JM just put out a memo countering what the union memo's said. So did they or did they not cancel future meetings? That should be an easy one to prove. How about this, how about both sides put out their opening positions in general terms (kinda like the union actually did) and see who is talking with forked tongue.

Speaking of the "word on the street". Word is... ever since the company announced their three negotiators it was obvious that they had NO INTENTION of quickly coming to an agreement with the pilot group. The word on the street is that the three company negotiators HAVE ZERO experience negotiating. Therefore, they have to run everything by others to get analysis and approval (time consuming). Just what I've heard on the street.