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crewdawg 01-16-2020 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by saturn (Post 2958074)
I'm not sure what the bottom bids. But in my category, the bottom 5-15 have been lineholders. Usually more likely for senior guys to slurp up all the RSV lines in the slow season. Although, with FEB reserve ALV being 79:30, I'd assume fewer senior guys bid it as a winter vacation. Still ahowing bottom 8 with lines.

Ya, what I'm saying is that there is a big difference between the bottom guys getting a line because they hoped (and bid) for one and them getting a line because they were FORCED into one. I took a peak at the reasons reports for FOs in SLC for Dec-Feb. Only the 7ERB in Feb had junior guys actually forced into a line. NONE of the other categories (Dec-Feb) had guys forced into line...as in a denial code of "MAX RESERVES REACHED". Junior guys getting lines isn't necessarily all that uncommon...but them getting forced into a line is not common.

It could be an anomaly (winter thing) or it could be a shift of things to come because of rotation construction/optimizer madness/etc... It will be interesting to see if this trend continues. It's not necessarily good or bad, just interesting to see this happening. I don't know if it's a sign of how good our reserve is or how bad our domestic flying is right now...probably a bit of both.


Originally Posted by saturn (Post 2958074)
​​​​​​My commute is either a 4 hour drive or 1hr flight 4x daily. Finished a trip yesterday, had AM shortcall waiting for me on landing. So instead of going home, I'm in the lounge typing this. Fingers crossed I don't get SC again tomorrow. Either I never got this SC and I'm home right now, or I just had my hotel paid with a SCC. Decent little workrule.

Hate that for ya. Many of us local would gladly take those SCs for ya. Here's hoping!

Tailhookah 01-16-2020 10:18 AM

The SC above guarantee is an improvement. Does anyone know how much credit above GAR will be added? Or if any other major has that work rule?

As for now I’d say everything is back up for negotiation.

saturn 01-16-2020 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Tailhookah (Post 2958123)
The SC above guarantee is an improvement. Does anyone know how much credit above GAR will be added? Or if any other major has that work rule?

As for now I’d say everything is back up for negotiation.

I think UA is 1:00 above guarantee for unused SC. AA is :30 above guarantee used or not. Maybe somebody else can back that up?

4fans 01-16-2020 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Chakerik (Post 2958001)
Which fleet?

320b at the base with 4000 Pilots

GucciBoy 01-16-2020 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2958111)
Ya, what I'm saying is that there is a big difference between the bottom guys getting a line because they hoped (and bid) for one and them getting a line because they were FORCED into one. I took a peak at the reasons reports for FOs in SLC for Dec-Feb. Only the 7ERB in Feb had junior guys actually forced into a line. NONE of the other categories (Dec-Feb) had guys forced into line...as in a denial code of "MAX RESERVES REACHED". Junior guys getting lines isn't necessarily all that uncommon...but them getting forced into a line is not common.



It could be an anomaly (winter thing) or it could be a shift of things to come because of rotation construction/optimizer madness/etc... It will be interesting to see if this trend continues. It's not necessarily good or bad, just interesting to see this happening. I don't know if it's a sign of how good our reserve is or how bad our domestic flying is right now...probably a bit of both.







Hate that for ya. Many of us local would gladly take those SCs for ya. Here's hoping!



I don’t see any SEA 7ERBs forced into a line in Feb.

crewdawg 01-16-2020 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by GucciBoy (Post 2958259)
I don’t see any SEA 7ERBs forced into a line in Feb.

That's because there weren't any, but there were some in the SEA330B and SEA73NB. My post you quoted was referencing SLC.

Chakerik 01-16-2020 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2958264)
That's because there weren't any, but there were some in the SEA330B and SEA73NB. My post you quoted was referencing SLC.

I saw sea 330b and even msp 330b forced into rsv

crewdawg 01-16-2020 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Chakerik (Post 2958273)
I saw sea 330b and even msp 330b forced into rsv

Noone in those categories were forced into reserve. The may have been given coverage days, or got to their reserve bids by an 'else start next' or 'clear schedule start next,' but none were actually forced into a reserve line.

Chakerik 01-16-2020 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2958323)
Noone in those categories were forced into reserve. The may have been given coverage days, or got to their reserve bids by an 'else start next' or 'clear schedule start next,' but none were actually forced into a reserve line.

Correction...I meant forced into a line, bc max rsv reached. Typo...I was attempting to corroborate your point

GucciBoy 01-16-2020 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2958264)
That's because there weren't any, but there were some in the SEA330B and SEA73NB. My post you quoted was referencing SLC.



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