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crewdawg 01-31-2020 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by GliderCFI (Post 2968099)
It appears the guy who posted the resolution to eliminate retirement age in C20 is already going to have 41 years of service at current retirement date. How much more do you need? Get a hobby.

Anyone going to the meeting who can swing a proxy?

He will have spent 27 of those 41 years as a WB Capt...

Herkflyr 01-31-2020 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2968211)
He will have spent 27 of those 41 years as a WB Capt...

And no doubt griping the past year or so how "unfair" Age 65 is.

flyallnite 01-31-2020 08:08 AM

Excellent update. This should be pinned to the top of the forum to refer to when things go off in the weeds.

TED74 01-31-2020 08:15 AM

Conventional wisdom is that Delta benefits by having one or more workgroups non-unionized. It seems to me that the pilot group pays the price. Worst in vacation, worst in deadhead, worst in crew meals, no holiday pay, no alcohol on a TPAC DH, etc... because they'd have to give it to someone who doesn't have a negotiating body?

Personally, I think flight attendants who don't want to be unionized in today's managerial climate are nuts and short-sighted... but that's been the opinion I'll offer only when asked. Now I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't bolster the organizing campaign.

RAH RAH REE 01-31-2020 10:15 AM

The union should just go into negotiations and say either agree to all this or we will get the FAs unionized by the end of the summer.

SideSticker 01-31-2020 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2968214)
And no doubt griping the past year or so how "unfair" Age 65 is.

And probably broke cause he never learned how to manage his money.

Jaww 01-31-2020 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by SideSticker (Post 2968391)
And probably broke cause he never learned how to manage his money.

That second wife in Asia certainly isn’t going to get a job.

GliderCFI 01-31-2020 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 2968400)
That second wife in Asia certainly isn’t going to get a job.

Well, not when she's spent all his money on Gucci and Prada coronavirus masks.

DALFA 01-31-2020 01:21 PM

I'm glad that at least some of you are starting to see how it does benefit your group if FAs do unionize.

Let us do our own negotiating so that your group can just worry about negotiating for your group only. As others have said, there are many areas the company won't move on because they're too visible and would anger the FA group into unionizing. So just help us unionize and throw that excuse out the window. There's many areas that we'd actually be able to work on together and in negotiations piggyback off of each other to lift the bar. It's common practice at other airlines.

Meow1215 01-31-2020 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by DALFA (Post 2968504)
I'm glad that at least some of you are starting to see how it does benefit your group if FAs do unionize.

Let us do our own negotiating so that your group can just worry about negotiating for your group only. As others have said, there are many areas the company won't move on because they're too visible and would anger the FA group into unionizing. So just help us unionize and throw that excuse out the window. There's many areas that we'd actually be able to work on together and in negotiations piggyback off of each other to lift the bar. It's common practice at other airlines.

Given AFA leadership, there is not allot of benefit in any pilot group helping AFA organize at any company.


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