Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2968630)

Given AFA leadership, there is not allot of benefit in any pilot group helping AFA organize at any company.

Originally Posted by DALFA (Post 2968504)

I'm glad that at least some of you are starting to see how it does benefit your group if FAs do unionize.



Let us do our own negotiating so that your group can just worry about negotiating for your group only. As others have said, there are many areas the company won't move on because they're too visible and would anger the FA group into unionizing. So just help us unionize and throw that excuse out the window. There's many areas that we'd actually be able to work on together and in negotiations piggyback off of each other to lift the bar. It's common practice at other airlines.

Originally Posted by NavyFlyer (Post 2968761)

Sorry—I won’t help your effort to unionize.

Personally, I would WANT to be unionized. But your average FA who will have this job 5-6 years doesn’t want to pay into it. And it’s not my job to convince them otherwise.




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Originally Posted by DALFA (Post 2968676)

You mean the same AFA leadership that already works with ALPA on just about every issue in Washington DC? And also works with ALPA locals at airlines that have both ALPA and AFA representation in place?

Originally Posted by DALFA (Post 2968676)

You mean the same AFA leadership that already works with ALPA on just about every issue in Washington DC? And also works with ALPA locals at airlines that have both ALPA and AFA representation in place?

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2968831)

AFA lends lip service to issues. It takes money in DC to make things happen. On the money side they fall sadly short.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2968831)

AFA lends lip service to issues. It takes money in DC to make things happen. On the money side they fall sadly short.

Originally Posted by NavyFlyer (Post 2968761)

Sorry—I won’t help your effort to unionize.

Personally, I would WANT to be unionized. But your average FA who will have this job 5-6 years doesn’t want to pay into it. And it’s not my job to convince them otherwise.




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Originally Posted by Banzai (Post 2969257)

Why is “only” working a job 5-6 years somehow disqualifying for having a union?

Originally Posted by DALFA (Post 2968676)

You mean the same AFA leadership that already works with ALPA on just about every issue in Washington DC? And also works with ALPA locals at airlines that have both ALPA and AFA representation in place?

Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 2969345)

Yep, they are really great at nodding their head and smiling. Sarah does a pretty good job taking credit for things that she didn’t really I suppose.